My gg grandmother is a mystery. Just how many women my gg grandfather was consorting with, 1, 2 or 3? What happened to her? I've found no other records for her other than these, although I have everything else on the rest of the family. Can anyone help further? GG grandfather was born James William Godboult Dec 1854, Pimlico, son of Frances and George, a farm labourer (George had been dead for 23 months!) He was baptised as James Godbolt son of James and Frances, a farmer In 1856 Frances married Edward William Fricker, and in 1861 he was living with them and his siblings with the name he seems to have taken after this time - James Fricker - at 7 Lambeth Road, Southwark St George In 1871 he is not with his family, and I can't find him In 1875 his son James Walter Fricker is born 2 Smith Street, Kennington mother Annie formerly Palmer. He is a cab driver, as he is is in all following records. Bap mother is Ann 1880 daughter Annie Ellen is born Kennington mother Annie formerly Burch (baptism in the same month mother Mary Ann) 1881 in Camberwell, wife Annie born 1856 Islington 1883 son Charles Albert born, mother Mary Ann formerly Birch 1888 birth of Nellie mother Mary Ann formerly Burch, and bap of both, mother Mary Ann 1891 Camberwell with Mary Ann born 1855 London 1901 James is in Camberwell and single.
Nice one you've got there. I tried all of the Ann Annie Mary Ann Maryann combinations for the Palmer & Burch/Birch births just in case it was her birth name. didn't solve it tho'. GRO has Annie Ellen & Charles' Mother as BURCH. Then to marriages of Mr Palmer to Ann/ Annie. Sadly too many possibles to also check death for Mr Palmer. Likewise with Burch- didn't get to Birch. Rather needs a whole day to play here, I'm thinking.
Like Ma I also tried a bunch of combinations with no luck.. We all have to have one or two of these walls, don't we?
George Goudbolt/ Godbolt died- his widow Frances married George Fricker. James 'Godbolt' took on the name of Fricker who may well have been his biological father anyhoo. Is that what you meant Sue? Births Mar 1855 Godbould James William St Geo.H.Sq. 1a 198
No/.... He was baptised as James Godbolt son of James and Frances, a farmer, but annabel says he was the son of Frances and George
Maybe one of those 'oops' moments on behalf of the clergy mixing with the name of the son, or perhaps there was a 'James' along the way who was in fact the boy's father, but Edward gave his surname because they were living together.? Altogether to-oo many names swirling in my head just now.
There is an Army Service record on FMP for a James William FRICKER but he appears to have enlisted in 1870 and been discharged the same year, which thus doesn't help to find him in the 1871 census. Can't give you full details because of their terms & conditions but I do think that he is likely to be your James William and, if it is, he lied about his age when he enlisted! Janet
My theory is that both James and George were made up, using info from her husband, although I never found where the name James came from. Frances' husband George died in Suffolk, James William was born London in the house of her sister and her husband. Edward William Fricker wasn't living there. Somewhere along the way she had a fling. They had a son Edward William 1860 Fricker which to me points to this being Edward Sr's first born son not second
It might be him. So it seems that he was a rubbish soldier. It's on Fold 3 as well, but I guess it's the same thing, a discharge. Does anyone know how I might be able to get hold of his sign up papers or anything, I'm not very good at military? It also says something in the margin about his short service, but I don't understand it. (I think I'm allowed to post a snip) Can anyone translate?
Naughty boy, sounds like him! But, there was another of the same name around at the same time in London.
Woo hoo. I just realised there were more pages (D'oh) and the very last bit of the last page is his mother's address. It's him and it describes him. He had a nasty accident which was a reason he was discharged. I can't quite read it so I will post a sme of it.
So he had a scrotal hernia? He was a clerk, perhaps this injury made him turn to the cab driving. Now I know he was at his mum's Dec 1870! He must have moved out just before the census
I think that this is what it says but would be grateful for a second (or third ) opinion and suggestions for the missing words: Scrotal Hernia (Left) At Riding Drill on 27th October 1870 this man was thrown forward on the pommel of the saddle, when the accident occurred. Has been caused by the performance of military duty. Hernia of left side, the part coming down into the scrotum. Caused by riding a ***** (reactive?) horse on duty. Can contribute towards earning a livelihood. Has not been caused or ****** (apparated?) by any vice.
I agree Jan, just put my opinion on the bits you were unsure about Hernia of left side, the gut coming down into the scrotum. Caused by riding a restive horse on duty. Has not been caused or apparated by any vice.
