I give up, I can’t figure it out and I need some help. I have already mentioned in earlier posts that when the lad and I toured Britain last October, we went to St Just in Penwith where many of his ancestors originated. We graveyard crawled through the grounds of the Parish Church and the Wesleyan Chapel and took photos of any gravestone bearing a family surname. For the last few months I have kept busy transcribing the words on the gravestones, many of which are barely decipherable, and researching the people detailed theron. We have also given copies of the photos to the St Just OPC, Bob Bolitho and they are starting to appear on his St Just website. But I cannot complete the jigsaw for the following gravestone (note figures in bold underlined font were not visible on photos they have been entered following my research): IN HOPE OF THE RESURRECTION OF STEPHEN HARVEY DIED 7TH JULY, 1792, AGED 44 AND MARY, HIS WIFE DIED 10TH JUNE, 1831, AGED 86 YEARS STEPHEN HARVEY JAMES THEIR GRANDSON BORN 4TH APRIL 1795, DIED 31ST MAY 1870 AND MARY, HIS WIFE BORN 28TH JULY, 1799, DIED 8TH DECR 1883 STEPHEN HARVEY JAMES THEIR SON BORN 1ST JUNE, 1821, DIED 25TH NOV 1887 AND ANNE, HIS WIFE BORN 10 OCT, 1825. DIED 18 FEBY 1917 ARTHUR HODGE JAMES THEIR SON BORN JUN 13 1848, DIED MARCH 9 1926 THEN I AWAKE UP AFTER THY LIKENESS I SHALL BE SATISFIED WITH IT The problem is connecting the parents of Stephen Harvey James (1795-1870) to his grandparents. I have determined that his parents were Jakeh James (1761-1853) and Grace Harvey (1773-1859) BUT the only Grace Harvey baptism I can find is for Grace Harvey daughter of Richard and Elenor Harvey who was baptised 2 Apr 1773 at St Just in Penwith. While her birth details fit with the dates given on the various census for Jakeh and Grace James I have found she just isn’t right – there must be another Grace Harvey who is the daughter of Stephen Harvey and Mary Taskis, the grandparents detailed at the top of the gravestone. More information about Stephen and Mary follows: Stephen Harvey: Father: Philip Harvey; Mother: Jane Stone; Baptism: 02 Nov 1747 in St. Just; Marriage to Mary Taskis: 06 Jan 1771 in St. Just; Death: 07 Jul 1792 in St. Just; Burial: 08 Jul 1792 in St. Just. Mary Taskis: Father: Thomas Taskis; Mother: Alice Taskis# Mrs; Baptism: 10 Jul 1742 in St. Just; Death: 10 Jun 1831 in Nancherrow, Cornwall, England; Burial: 15 Jun 1831 in St. Just, Cornwall, England. The only children I have found for Thomas and Mary Harvey are: Stephen Harvey: Baptism: 08 Apr 1781 in St. Just; Death: Nov 1782 in St. Just; Burial: 11 Nov 1782 in St. Just. Mary Harvey: Baptism: 08 Jan 1784 in St. Just; Marriage to John Williams: 02 Jan 1808 in St. Just Any help in connecting grandson to grandparents via the right daughter will be much appreciated.
Might Grace Harvey have beenchristened just before her marriage? I had a relly who was baptised as an adult & used her maiden name. mentioned were her Parents. I think it was a post "Adult Baptisms"
Checked on OPC Database; there are no Grace Harvey with parents Stephen and Mary baptised between 1770 and 1795 listed in whole of Cornwall
Is there a missing register? Or not yet transcribed? Stephen and Mary were married in 1771 but the first recorded baptism is in 1781!
Because the mother of Stephen Harvey James b 4 April 1795 d 31 May 1870 must be the daughter of Stephen and Mary Harvey if Stephen Harvey James is their grandson.
I wondered that too, I can't believe they only had two children in all that time. Perhaps I'll have to browse the images on FamilySearch some more.
Always the possibility that the child was born to unwed parents, may explain his being with the G'Parents on grave stone. Perhaps, parents went elsewhere & married away from home-starting again in a new country.
Wendy, I am happy that I have found the right parents, Jakeh James and Grace Harvey, and they were married 17 Jun 1794 before Stephen Harvey James birth on 4 Mar 1795, but I have not found records to confirm that Grace is Stephen and Mary Harvey's daughter.
And another Grace buried 8/7/1779 daughter of Stephen. Now that throws a spanner in the works!!!!! Maybe not! Just have to find one baptised after 1779!
Just found that burial myself, and with the previous ones found for Stephen on 11 Nov 1782 and Mary on 24 Nov 1784 that's a lot of buried babes for one family. Could there be two Stephen Harveys giving birth to children over the same period in St Just??? Note that the 1841 and 1851 census show Grace married to Jakeh James and mother of Stephen Harvey James as born 1772/3 in St Just
What dates do you have for this one? I am currently chasing down the siblings and half siblings of the grandfather named Stephen on the tombstone, his father was Philip too. And I have now confirmed that this family is related to my husband.
Stephen father Phillip mother Margaret 22/2/1789 Stephen father John mother Mary 24/3/1782 Stephen father Phillip mother Jane 2/11/1747 bit early Stephen father Phillip mother Margaret 5/5/1795 All St Just in Penwith