Elizabeth Jane Richards marries? James Hayward. Banns found but no marriage. Perhaps somebody will add the marriage link from a previous post. See here: https://genealogy-specialists.com/t...izabeth-jane-richards-and-james-hayward.7840/ (added ) Elizabeth bapt 1854 in Cornwall and possible death Sept qtr 1928 Pontypridd and her husband was born in Somerset .Don't know when he died. They had at least 9 children. Rosina born 1889 in Wales married William Jones in 1921 but I can't find her in 1939. David Hayward born Rhonda in 1892 -I have no idea what happened to him. James Edward Hayward born Somerset appears to have had 2 wives and is living with the 2nd at 1911 at iving at 9 Hillside Terrace,Wales with wife Ann Davies and adopted son. I have no idea what happened to them. John Henry Hayward born 1875 in 1911 a widower -Living with parents and family.9 Llewellyn Terrace Llwynypia, Rhondda, Glamorganshire, Wales. What happened to him. Elizabeth and James had Lucinda,Thomas G, Bertie and Frederick and I have found deaths of them.
A tree on Ancestry has a David Hayward b.22 Aug 1891 Glamorgan,Wales with a death of 16 October 1962 in San Diego, California and marriage 7 October to Ada Smith in Waterloo, Black Hawk, Iowa, USA WW1 draft registration card gives date of birth as 22 Aug 189o born at Trulaw? 1910 passenger list gives his father as James Hayward and address as 9 Llewellyn Terrace Llwynypia, so this is him. The tree is called Crouch Family Tree
John Henry Hayward b.29 Dec 1875, married Alice Smith 1899 and Alice is given as dying in 1904 in Pontypridd registration district. John H.Hayward death 1936 Apr-Jun Pontypridd Vol.11a Page 555 One child born to John and Alice shown as John Henry Hayward (how inventive !) b.28 Oct 1901 • 20 Cambrian Terrace, Llwynpia, Ystradyfodwg, Glamorgan This again is from Ancestry in the Thomas Family tree Young John Henry Hayward is living with Grandparents in 1911 at 9 Llewelyn Ter Llwynypia Nr Tonypandy
There is a marriage for John Henry Hayward to a Alice Smith, June 1/4 1899. Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Vol: 11a, Pg 748. Then a death for John Henry Hayward, June 1936, age 60. Birth: abt 1876. Pontypridd, Glamorganshire, Vol: 11a, Pg 555. Lol, Patten_Walsh is quicker....
I haven't an ancestry subscription. Just Rosina's death to find and her parents marriage. I looked at fmp and the above marriage has David's mother's maiden name as Matthews,whereas the family I have been looking for the mother's name is Richards. I will have to double check at the information I have and look at births on gov uk to see if I have the wrong family. Only 9 birth to look for. Just checked one of the censuses and the mother was born in Cornwall. Not to plough through the births.
Cannot find any marriage for James Hayward to any Elizabeth Richards or Matthews, so maybe they never married. I have a gt Grandfather whose marriage I've never found either even though they had 6 children
Eventually found the banns and they took place at St John the Baptist,Ystradyfodwg, but looking at it again it appears the chap's surname is Haywood. There are words that I can't read and the date Nov 9th in the margin. I looked at BMD and no marriage for either Haywood ot Hayward took place. I am sure that the family that I have found in Wales is correct because in one of the censuses Elizabeth's brother was living with them as well.
Dragging this lot up again from 2018 I think that I was wrong with the information I had written about James Edward Hayward I don't know why I said that James Edward born Bristol 1878 had 2 wives because he was living with wife Mary at at 9 Hillside Terrace,Wales (not Ann) in 1911 and had been married for 12 years, His wife Mary could have had the surname Davies or Elliot. married 1899,June qtr, Pontypridd. Can't find James E in 1891 but in all the other censuses in Wales. No death yet. I wonder who were that parents of the adopted son that was living with him in 1911. His sister is still a mystery as well.Last seen with parents on 1911 and may have married William Jones in1921.[/QUOTE]
FMP I think has James E on the 1919 United States,Canadian Border crossing. He is number 22 . His father is James Hayward and he lives in Wales. 1911 his father was living at 9, Llewellyn Terrace Llwynypia, Rhondda, Glamorganshire. James E wife is called Mary and he was born in Bristol. This bears out James E the son of James and Elizabeth Jane but I am not 100 percent sure.
1920 census has him at Montgomery, Pennsylvania, United States with wife Mary Born England and son Thomas J born 1900 in Wales. If correct the son in the 1911 census and was the adopted son in the 1911 in Wales.
I have found that the son married in 1928 to Sarah Morgan but no parents names.Rosemont,Chester,Pennsylvania.
Will Chimp be able to help? Is this the same place as James Howard (the father) was living in 1911? 9, Llewellyn Terrace Llwynypia, Rhondda, Glamorganshire. If not there must be 2 families with the same names or maybe father moved there after the family emigrated. James E and wife were living in 1911 at 9 Hillside Terrace Llwynypia, Rhondda, Glamorganshire, Wales. Places of birth match as far as I can see.
I would say it is the same place, as in Llwyeria being a misspelling of Llwynypia, as there is no such place as Llwyeria, it looks like someone wasn't sure how to spell Llwynypia. The two words sound very much the same except there is no pronunciation of the 'p' in Llwyeria. But.... 9 Hillside Terrace is a different street to 9 Llewellyn Terrace. See map:- To add, James E(dward) seems to have had a brother John H(enry) born 1876, he married Agnes young in 1914 John H died 25th April 1936, aged 60, at 20, Glamorgan Terrace, Llwynypia. Agnes was born 26th July 1889 she died 20th July 1949, 6 days short of her 60th birthday, she died at the same place. As you can see by this map they were all quite close to each other:- But according to the 1911 census Frank Manning and his family were living at 9, Hillside Terrace and were there until at least 1921. By 1939 the Manning's had moved on. So I take it that snip would be from later than 1921.
How strange.... Manning's in 1911 RG14 - Piece number 32362 (No. 9) Hayward's in 1911 RG14 - Piece number 32362 (No.9) I think someone was on the drink, looking at the original images for the 1911 census in this terrace it looks like there was a real messing up of house numbers. The addresses run:- (house number on each sheet) 1 - Matthews 2 - Jones 3 - Harris 4 - Thomas 4 - Parsons 5 - Morris 5 - Wright 6 - Tanner 7 - Honeybone 7 - Bishop 7-8 - Griffiths 9 - Manning 9 - Hayward 10 - Cox 11 - Matthews Each one has it's own sheet for the census.
I see in 1911 James E and Mary have an adopted child Thomas James Hayward Jones with them born 1900. He seems to be the son of John Rees & Edith Jones nee Clement. and caan be found with his parents in 1901 at 2, Chaddesley Terrace, Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales RG13 Piece number 5077 Folio 12 Page 16 I wonder if Thomas was the child of a Hayward to Edith before she married John Rees Jones in 1900.
Thanks for the information Chimp. Is it possible that the Haywards and Mannings were sharing the same house? The adopted child dropped the Jones name when in the USA. I tried without success to find the birth of Thomas James Hayward Jones .
Try Pontypridd 1900 June quarter. JONES, THOMAS JAMES HAYWARD - GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in PONTYPRIDD Volume 11A Page 672
This is quite likely. While transcribing censuses I often find two, or even three, households sharing an address
