Hilfield again ... Baptism register

mugwortismy cat

mugwortismy cat

Tenacious to the End!
Hi, sorry to bother you again with yet another Vicar whose name I cannot work out. This is the Hilfield (Dorset) baptism register, he only performs one baptism, I have snipped the entry (see below). Of course, it may be F G or J G, I am not sure. The surname may be BOWN and what I think part of the surname may actually say Vicar???!!!

Would appreciate a fresh pair of eyes.

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I think it might be F G. Jane and Jan both have a longer tail.

You might be right and vicar has been attached to Bow though I am not sure because of the officiating clergy beneath.

Maybe something like Bowchier, Bowchoir, Bowshier ?

Anything of interest here?
www.
britishsurnames.co.uk/browse/BOW/
 
thanks for looking Mutters, I agree that F G is more likely than J G.

I initially thought Bowdidge/Bowditch but that was because I was wishful thinking (it's a name that occurs occasionally in a neighbouring parish). I will try and track down a clergyman FG Bowchier and see where that gets me ...
 
Huncamunca, you answered whilst I was typing, but I think you have it. It's an unfamiliar name and that combination of letters hadn't occurred to me -- I had tried searching for surnames beginning BOWN- and BOWR- but wasn't getting far. I can see it could say BOURCHIER

so we think J G after all, despite the dis-similar J's elsewhere in the line ...
 
mugwortismy cat said:
so we think J G after all, despite the dis-similar J's elsewhere in the line ...
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I'm not sure: just got excited when I found Joseph Gabbett Bourchier. :) Don't know if he was in the right place at the right time though. Will have a look in the morning if no-one else beats me to it . . . must get some sleep now!
 
Agree with Jane, looks like a lazy 'J' compared to the other two (Jan, Jane) but atop is Jane written in a more like style. I've often found personal signatures differ to writing that one needs to understand, except in Dr's scripts.

Are you able to flip to another page to compare letters?
 
It is getting late for me also. Perhaps tomorrow we could take a look in the census. He might be in the Dorset area in the 1901.
 
Hi Wendy

there is only the one baptism by him, but the entry may have been made by the incumbent as it is quite similar handwriting. Then again, I am hardly familiar with the incumbent's writing as he had only just taken over and performed two baptisms before this entry I'm querying and only another 3 afterwards (it's a small parish); and then someone else with distinctly different writing takes over.

I'll just post the entire previous two so that you can get a better look.

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mugwortismy cat said:
he only performs one baptism
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Maybe this is the reason he didn't perform many baptisms

familysearch

Joseph Gabbett Bourchier, Age 77
Burial Date 22 Dec 1898, Swanage, Dorset
Birth Year (Estimated)1821
Entry Number 2857, Digital Folder Number 004508370

A little more on him can be found at the bottom of this page

http://
thepeerage.com/p46920.htm
 
Chimp said:
Maybe this is the reason he didn't perform many baptisms

familysearch

Joseph Gabbett Bourchier, Age 77
Burial Date 22 Dec 1898, Swanage, Dorset
Birth Year (Estimated)1821
Entry Number 2857, Digital Folder Number 004508370
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He is described as a clerk in holy orders in the burial register (Northbrook Cemetery):

http://
members.iinet.net.au/~suegar/NthbrookCemeteryIndex_1.htm

which says he died at Swanage. FreeBMD gives registration district as Ware (vol. 3a), which would explain why some people claim he died in Hertfordshire. The GRO index has Wareham (vol. 5a), which would have covered Swanage. I have submitted a correction to FreeBMD.
 
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Having now begun the Hilfield Marriage register, I need to beg your indulgence yet again. Please can you tell me what the Minister's name is? I can read the Charles Roberts, but Fratkins!? Hatkins?! If this was a RC register I might be tempted by Fr.Atkins ...



[having trouble uploading, I'll post this and then try again]

[that seemed to work, should have said this is in 1855]
 
Though the initial letter doesn't look much like a 'W' I think it must be: there's an entry in the National Probate Calendar for a grant of letters of administration (with will) of the effects of 'the Reverend Watkins Charles Roberts late of Portland in the County of Dorset Clerk who died 10 November 1876 at Kingston in the County of Devon'.
 
Thank you :) 8(:-)

... Now you've said that I have a feeling I have come across him before (perhaps in the Sydling St Nicholas Baptism register? definitely not in the Hilfield baptisms) so I probably should have been able to work it out :confused:
 
OK, my Hilfield endeavour is drawing to a close ... I am now nearing the end of the Burial Register, and (you guessed it) another indecipherable clergyman who performs one burial -- did not come across him in Baptisms or Marriages, as they don't make it into the 1930s --- (mind you, Why am I so concerned? when I looked on the opcdorset site, where I will donate my transcriptions, hardly anyone mentions the clergy in their register transcripts. But to me, especially in the process of working through in chronological order, it adds to the picture of the social history etc.)

Anyway, here is the entry: What does it say after 'R. Douglas'? I have tried Dor- and Doc-, in desperation I tried Don-, and I seem to get nowhere ...

Huncamunca, I need you ;)

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R Douglas Downes?

If I am right, then this could be the chap referred to in this wikipedia article about the Society of St Francis, which in turn, the Hilfield Friary is part of.

wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_Saint_Francis
 
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