Wilfred J Nanchollas death 1920?

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  1. Genie1

    Genie1 Cornish to the Core

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    Nanchollas all spellings.
    Need help to find this death.
    The above was born 1890 in Durham to Cornish parents-John Nanchollas and Annie nee Sincock (Hannah).
    1911 has him living at Ventonleague ,Hayle,Cornwall, with his widowed mother.
    Wilfred appears in the Service records. 29 July 1916 he was in the army and in 1 April RAF. The record shows that he married on the 2 Aug 1913. BMD has him married to Verena Gilbert. Wilfred and Verena have a son named Wilfred J G Nanchollas.
    Verena must have been widowed because she remarries ? Barnes.
    I found a death in 1920 which was abroad but I don't know where I saw that and have been unable to find it since.
    There is a 1919 death record of a William Nancollas but he is not the one.

    Will somebody be able to tell me .
    Just had a look at Ancestry and there is an incoming record for a Wilfred Nancollas. Liverpool. I wonder if it could be the son of the above.
     
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    Wilfred and his wife Verena nee Gilbert had a son born 1914 ,Redruth District,Cornwall,named Wilfred J G Nancolas.
     
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    Commonwealth War graves Commission site has this

    NANCHOLAS
    Private
    M2/113619
    W J
    Tuesday, February 11, 1919
    Age 30
    CHARLEROI COMMUNAL CEMETERY
    C. 2.

    Royal Army Service Corps
     
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    I think that he is William Nancollas from Falmouth.
     
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    There is an entry for a 6 year old Wilfred Nanchollas arriving at Liverpool in 1898 (15th August on the ship Umbria) from New York, he is accompanied by Annie Nanchollas age 40
     
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    Not the one.
     
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    Have you seen his RAF records (on FMP)? it says transferred to the RAF reserve 8/3/19.

    Not the entry you saw on Anc, or not your man?
     
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    I saw his Raf record and he is correct going by his first marriage,
    but he isn't the 1898 person on Anc.
     
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    I think this must be your Walter and Verena :rolleyes:

    Cornishman 6th May 1925
    At the Birmingham Assize Court, a decree nisi was granted with costs to Mrs Verina Nancollas, of 8, Pond Avenue, Hayle, Cornwall, who alleged misconduct on the part of her husband. Married in August, 1913, Hayle, the parties went to live at Erdington, where the respondent left his wife. Mrs Nancollas stated she found a letter in her husband's possession which concluded with the words, "Your loving wife, Billie." Laura Agnes Kearley, of Station Road, King's Heath, said the respondent and woman, not the petitioner, came to stay at her house. She knew them as "Mr. and Mrs. Simpson."
     
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    This correct. I started a new thread abot Verina.
    Poor Verina married in 1925 and her husband died 3 years later.
    I can't find her death or anything about her son Wilfred John Gilbert Nancollis.
     
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    Back to this thread and throwing out ideas.
    Wilfred married Agnes A Smith in 1925 in Warwick and then disappears from view.
    I then find a W J Nancollis with Alice M in the 1939 register and both live Duncom Road South, Liverpool. Lancashire.
    Then I had a lighbulb moment what if Agnes's maiden name was Simpson and this is what she and Wilfred used. Re 1925 newspaper report. Post 9.
    Going back to Agnes marrying as Agnes A Smith I looked for a marriage between Smith and Simpson and found a marriage between Herbert T G Taylor and Alice Simpson.1912 Sept Qtr W Ham.
    There are other Nancollis children from 1921 to 1931 all Liverpool area with the mother Simpson.
    People moved around a lot years ago and maybe she decided to call herself Alice that may have been her 2nd name.
     
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    Post 11 is wrong:headbang::headbang::headbang:
    Found him in search engine as John Watkins Nancollis.
    Back to the drawing board for Wilfred and Agnes.
    What female name can be Billie? Post 9.
     
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    How about Willamina ? A bit like how people shorten William to Will, Bill or Billy.
     
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    I can't check but there is an Agnes A Simpson b 1894 with a John Simpson b 1890, both in Birmingham in 1939 who might be worth eliminating.
     
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    That was the one I was going to suggest :)
     
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    To add to the choices, my aunty Lil (whose name was really Margaret), was often called Bill - and I have no idea why:rolleyes:
    Billie could have just been a pet name - sorry not much help:(
     
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    Yes, my friend's dad was Arthur Henry, but he was always called Jerry o_O
     
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    Agnes A born 7/6/1894
    John C born 8/6/1890 - a hire purchase accounts manager
    plus one redacted entry
     
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    Looking at that 1939 Register entry, it says John W and Alice M.

    Electoral registers for 33 Duncombe Road, North in 1945 has:-

    Nancollis, Agnes May
    Nancollis, Margery
    Nancollis, John Watkins
    Nancollis, Jane

    There is a birth registration of a John Watkins Nancollis in the June quarter of 1889, Toxteth Park - so could this be the John W Nancollis in the 1939 Register?
     
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    Just a thought, do you have Wilfred's date of birth? - if so you could try all males with that dob on the 1939 reg, it might just throw up someone who fits.
     
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