Marriage of a McKenzie to a Morison

There is also another contender for your Murdo!
In loving memory of Murdo, dearly loved husband of Margaret McKenzie who passed away at his residence, Allandale, Invercargill January 18 1911.
Death registration Murd McKenzie 1911 age 75 (1836)
Southland Times. McKenzie, at Invercargill on Sunday 19th October 1913, Robert Alfred dearly loved son of Margaret and the late Murdo McKenzie age 35
The funeral will leave his mothers residence 10 Ythan Street Invercargill on Wednesday for the Eastern Cemetery.
 
Murfomurf said:
I didn't think those children could all have been born together from the same mother! It's difficult when the NZ BDM doesn't give the mother's surname.
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Yes I know and worse no mention of parents on death registrations either. At least we get something right over here. To add….how many Murdo McKenzies can there be who went to New Zealand?
 
Archie's Mum said:
@Murfomurf states that Murdo and Margaret came to New Zealand via Australia, however nowhere on the ships log does it say anything but that they sailed well south of Tasmania without sighting it. So I’m wondering if she has the correct Murdo and Margaret. There are few Murdo McKenzies in Australia around that time.
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I wasn't sure about the Murdo I found arriving in Sydney but mine didn't seem to have a wife or children with him either. It bothered me that the Marriage in Birkenhead had Murdo's father as Alexander McKenzie because Alexander wasn't a possibility out of the list of males who might have been Murdo's father, besides Roderick. However, rumour has it that the Ross-shire BDM records are a bit sketchy. It looks as though the Child registered in Birkenhead MUST be their child and Murdo senior's father MUST be Alexander not Roderick. Then I STILL haven't discovered the correct Margaret Morison for the Marriage and children! I may have to concentrate elsewhere on my tree to check whether these new "facts" link to others. Thanks for fishing around in Papers Past- I had not started on them for this family.
 
What makes me think Alexander is theirs is that Scots name their first male after the fathers father and there is no Roderick anywhere except one later on in NZ but I’m not sure he is related.
What also happens is that daughters carry the mothers maiden name but that doesn’t appear to happen here either.
 
Chimp said:
I have found a marriage for a Murdo and Margaret Morison in 1861 but Murdo's father is Alexander.
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I will just have to accept this one and Alexander as Murdo's father until I find something with the proven correct Margaret Morison. Oh boy this family is annoying!!
 
Archie's Mum said:
What makes me think Alexander is theirs is that Scots name their first male after the fathers father and there is no Roderick anywhere except one later on in NZ but I’m not sure he is related.
What also happens is that daughters carry the mothers maiden name but that doesn’t appear to happen here either.
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Just cannot rely on those naming patterns, grrrrr- they could tell us so much if people just followed the rules, LOL!
 
So in post# 14 we have the obit of Margaret wife of Murdo a Mrs AJ Stephens is mentioned, her daughter, so searched and found a marriage in 1899 NZ for Margaret McKenzie to Augustus James Stephens but for the life of me can’t find her birth.
Found her in 1866 mother Margaret father MURDOUGH. So they were in NZ at least.
 
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There is a sort of tree on Family Search with Roderick McKenzie father, Ann McKenzie mother, no dates. Children are Annabella 1820, Alexander 1823, Roderick 1831 and Murdo 1834 born Contin, Ross and Cromarty. Attached to the Murdo you have born 1834 post #1
 
Chimp said:
I have found a marriage for a Murdo and Margaret Morison in 1861 but Murdo's father is Alexander.
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There is a possible Margaret Morrison in 1861 in Birkenhead. She is a sister in law to a James McPherson blacksmith and wife Mary. There is a brother Andrew Morrison , mason. All born Scotland.

These combinations, plus father's name Andrew, then led me to Crieff....
In 1851 there is Marget Morrison daughter of Andrew and Marget, siblings James, Lilla and Andrew.

I know you have discounted Margaret from Crieff, but there are two Margarets of similar age. The other is daughter of John and Ann. She is with her parents in 1871 in Crieff, unmarried.

So it may be worth revisiting the Margaret in Crieff who you had eliminated.
 
Grizel said:
There is a possible Margaret Morrison in 1861 in Birkenhead...

So it may be worth revisiting the Margaret in Crieff who you had eliminated.
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OK- thank you. I will revist A Margaret from Crieff, but NOT the one who was still single in Crieff in 1901! If she met Murdo via Birkenhead I guess it's OK that she wasn't born in Ross-shire.
Later: My Mac Air won't LET ME search for a Morison with the initial M for Margaret anywhere in the Ancestry Search form!!! Grrrrrr.....I will leave this part of my tree and come back when the computer obeys the human... more grrrrrrr
 
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Grizel said:
There is a possible Margaret Morrison in 1861 in Birkenhead. She is a sister in law to a James McPherson blacksmith and wife Mary. There is a brother Andrew Morrison , mason. All born Scotland.

These combinations, plus father's name Andrew, then led me to Crieff....
In 1851 there is Marget Morrison daughter of Andrew and Marget, siblings James, Lilla and Andrew.

I know you have discounted Margaret from Crieff, but there are two Margarets of similar age. The other is daughter of John and Ann. She is with her parents in 1871 in Crieff, unmarried.

So it may be worth revisiting the Margaret in Crieff who you had eliminated.
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There is also a 19 year old brother Donald.
 
Needs more investigation but there are three births in Queensland to a James McPherson and Mary Morrison. First is Mary McPherson born 1862 died the same year. Andrew William born 1864 and Margaret born 1868. If we can find Mary snr death and she died in Queensland it will give her parents names. Will search when my power comes back. Going solar and power is off for a while.
 
Yes! Found James and Mary McPherson arriving in Queensland in 1862 on the Ariadne. With them an infant and 1 year old Jessie ( as on the 1861 census in Birkenhead. There is also on the same ship, Donald McPherson, 25, Janet 27 and a Margaret 23. Now to find who Mary’s parents are on her death reg.
 
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James McPherson has turned up with a death notice as James McPherson 56 at Toowoomba of Goondiwindi from Cromarty Scotland in 1885. Added to the notice is New Zealand and Scotch papers please copy. Death registration of the same fellow, father Donald McPherson mother Catherine Ross. As James lived in Goondiwindi then it stands to reason that Mary should be there as well but so far haven’t found her death.
 
Archie's Mum said:
Yes! Found James and Mary McPherson arriving in Queensland in 1862 on the Ariadne. With them an infant and 1 year old Jessie ( as on the 1861 census in Birkenhead. There is also on the same ship, Donald McPherson, 25, Janet 27 and a Margaret 23. Now to find who Mary’s parents are on her death reg.
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That is a good find and makes sense as I couldn't find this family anywhere in England after 1861.
 
James and Mary McPherson registered an Angus James in 1866. In 1877 is a death registration for him and also an obit in the newspaper. The obit says beloved son of James McPherson but no mention of his mother, Mary.
I cannot find her death anywhere. She has just disappeared.
 
In Goondiwindi Cemetery is the burial of Mary McPherson in 1888, however her parents are Alexander Young and Margaretta McDougall, no age or birth year.
 
Archie's Mum said:
James McPherson has turned up with a death notice as James McPherson 56 at Toowoomba of Goondiwindi from Cromarty Scotland in 1885. Added to the notice is New Zealand and Scotch papers please copy. Death registration of the same fellow, father Donald McPherson mother Catherine Ross. As James lived in Goondiwindi then it stands to reason that Mary should be there as well but so far haven’t found her death.
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I don’t think this fellow is the one we are after. I think he is the husband of Mary Young as she is buried in Goondiwindi.
Mary Morrison and James McPherson’s daughter Jessie married John Tobin and they appear in papers repeatedly as being sued for monies not paid. They are seen in Central Queensland. If I only we could find the death for her mother :headbang:
Births found for Mary Morrison and James in Queensland include Margaret 1868, Mary 1862 mentioned earlier,Andrew William 1864.
 
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Made some headway on Mary McPherson nee Morrison, sister of Margaret Morrison (perhaps). In 1886 Mary McPherson applied for a victualler license for a new hotel, name The Welcome Home, in Barcaldine, Queensland. (Women Publicans of Queensland found online) When Mary applied for the license she states she is a widow with 2 children and that she had previously owned a license four years ago. At the end of 1886 she sold her license to Thomas Laurence Forbes.
Going back, Mary and James McPherson register a daughter Margaret McPherson in 1868. In 1885 is the marriage of Margaret Mary McPherson to Thomas Laurence Forbes. 1899 Margaret Mary Forbes death registration in Queensland, mother Mary Morrison father James McPherson. So Mary McPherson can be found in Barcaldine at least until 1886. Again no death! Will keep searching.
 
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