help with my Hextalls

Sandiep

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I am at present doing my friends tree, some of her family are from Nottinghamshire and some from Ireland...........I thought Ireland would be hard but no found all easily but Nottingham is proving very difficult.

Her father was James Hextall born 1926 sent for birth and found parents James Hextall and Hilda Amanda Clarke. After searching in Vain I sent for their marriage cert which turned out to have James name down as Exall!
11 Apr 1925 James Exall 24years Engineer fitter father James Exall iron turner
Register office Nottingham.
searched all over nothing then I found his service record on FMP which said date of birth
6th April 1901 Sneiton Nottingham...........I have scoured GRO records for the 2nd qtr and FMP and Ancestry no sign .....cant find him in 1911 either on his RAF records it says
his mother is Mrs Emma Hextall......34 Moody street, Carlton Rd, Nottingham
cant find her either!!!!!!!!!

Any ideas gratefully accepted...........will try Nottingham Records but search takes 4-5 weeks apparently.
 
Sandie, I did wonder if James had married before. Then I found I had the wrong man again, quitting now.
 
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Sandie, I'm a little rusty as not been doing research for some time; I've tried to find James with mother Emma and possibly father James but no luck! I wonder if James' mother was unmarried and James is registered with a different surname, perhaps a putative father's name, or possibly his father was James Hextall who was married to someone else and therefore not free to marry Emma. Sorry if I've succeeded in complicating things but all possibilities need to be explored.

I did find a James Hextall on census returns born c.1877 Sneinton, Notts. In 1911 he's with wife, Annie, married 1yr. He's not an Iron Turner but a gen. lab.
1891, RG12; Piece: 2698; Folio: 117; Page: 3;
1911, RG14; Piece: 20649, RD:430. The index says born Swinton but original definitely says Sneinton.
 
MealyMoo, that seeems to be the chap I followed up until they sailed from Liverpool to Branton (or somewhere) in 1906 with children Mabel & Herbert. Then I reread Sandies post that James :
searched all over nothing then I found his service record on FMP which said date of birth 6th April 1901 Sneiton Nottingham...
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so I deleted it all. :( & beat a hasty.
 
MealyMoo, that seeems to be the chap I followed up until they sailed from Liverpool to Branton (or somewhere) in 1906 with children Mabel & Herbert. Then I reread Sandies post that James :
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so I deleted it all. :( & beat a hasty.

But, I found him in 1911, Wendy.
 
Check, but it was Sandies 'date for birth 'which threw me. These are some of what I'd noted this morning..

Births Dec 1876
Hextall, James- Radford 7b-270 [only one I found near 1877]

Marriages Dec 1895
Henton, Mary Ann Nottingham 7b-678
O'Donnell Margaret Nottingham 7b-678

Marriages Sep 1909
NEWBOLD Annie - Nottingham 7b-808 ??
STOKES Clara - Nottingham 7b-808
1911 census does mean they are NOT the people who sailed in 1906 as there are no children with them.(unless they left them behind somewhere ) :)
edit. the only Hilda Amanda Clarke I found was born 1903 in Notts.
 
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Wendy, the census ref's I gave: 1891 James born c. 1877, 1911 James born c. 1883. So possibly two different chaps, however if so I haven't found either on other census returns. I can't stay up for longer to do more searching.....must hit the pillow! If you stay with it, good luck:) It's seems a name which is often mistranscribed.
 
The nearest I can see is a James Exhall b Mar Q 1903 Nottingham - wrong name, wrong year, wrong quarter - so probably not him - but maybe one to put on one side.
 
Sandie, I'm a little rusty as not been doing research for some time; I've tried to find James with mother Emma and possibly father James but no luck! I wonder if James' mother was unmarried and James is registered with a different surname, perhaps a putative father's name, or possibly his father was James Hextall who was married to someone else and therefore not free to marry Emma. Sorry if I've succeeded in complicating things but all possibilities need to be explored.

I did find a James Hextall on census returns born c.1877 Sneinton, Notts. In 1911 he's with wife, Annie, married 1yr. He's not an Iron Turner but a gen. lab.
1891, RG12; Piece: 2698; Folio: 117; Page: 3;
1911, RG14; Piece: 20649, RD:430. The index says born Swinton but original definitely says Sneinton.

My first thought was maybe he was illegitimate but because I cant find either his birth or whom his parents are either than a James and Emma I am stuck!

keeping the 1877 under review but the 1911 one born 1883 probabaly related but don't think mine at present
 
Check, but it was Sandies 'date for birth 'which threw me. These are some of what I'd noted this morning..

Births Dec 1876
Hextall, James- Radford 7b-270 [only one I found near 1877]

Marriages Dec 1895
Henton, Mary Ann Nottingham 7b-678
O'Donnell Margaret Nottingham 7b-678

Marriages Sep 1909
NEWBOLD Annie - Nottingham 7b-808 ??
STOKES Clara - Nottingham 7b-808
1911 census does mean they are NOT the people who sailed in 1906 as there are no children with them.(unless they left them behind somewhere ) :)
edit. the only Hilda Amanda Clarke I found was born 1903 in Notts.

will keep that birth in folder could be the dad

the 1895 marriage ........might be if I can find birth.

wonder if the 1909 could be the James & Annie on 1911

have all info on Hilda Amanda Clarke even found a photo of her
 
There's a baptism on Freereg which could relate to 'your' James.

22 Aug 1899, St Alban, Sneinton. Florence dau of James [labourer] and Emma Jane Hexall [sic], of Eyre's Yard

Sandie, as James named his mother Emma on his service records and said his father was James on his marriage cert, I'm wondering if Florence is his sister.
 
There's a baptism on Freereg which could relate to 'your' James.

22 Aug 1899, St Alban, Sneinton. Florence dau of James [labourer] and Emma Jane Hexall [sic], of Eyre's Yard

trouble is cant find her again! (reminds me of the ad should have gone to specsavers!)

no James baptisms in Freereg:(
 
I think she may have died a few days after her baptism, there's death reg 3rd qrt 1899, Nottingham 7b/190 for Florence Hexall age 0.
 
There's a baptism on Freereg which could relate to 'your' James.

22 Aug 1899, St Alban, Sneinton. Florence dau of James [labourer] and Emma Jane Hexall [sic], of Eyre's Yard
I can't check but it may be worth looking at Eyre's yard in 1901.
 
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