Hamer, Clun, Shropshire

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    Thomas Hamer
    Event Type Census
    Event Date 1871
    Event Place Bicton, Bicton, Shropshire, England
    Enumeration District 2
    Gender Male
    Age 8
    Relationship to Head of Household Son
    Birth Year (Estimated) 1863
    Birthplace Bishops Castle, Shropshire
    Entry Number 13
    Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/2729/0065
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    Edward Hamer Head M 38 St Harmon, Radnorshire
    Jane Hamer Daughter F 12 Bishops Castle, Shropshire
    Thomas Hamer Son M 8 Bishops Castle, Shropshire
    Edward Hamer Son M 0 Clun, Shropshire
    Citing this Record
    "England and Wales Census, 1871", database with images, FamilySearch

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    Hi Paul, I have tried looking for Thomas in later censuses but have drawn a blank. He seems to play hide-n-seek very well :rolleyes:

    I wondered if he moved away like his brother.

    I did find a marriage in Monmouthshire for a Thomas Hamer with father Edward but can't prove that it is him.

    For all it's worth, here's the marriage.

    Groom: Thomas Hamer, age 20 (b.1863), Bachelor, Occupation: Sinker, Address: Holly Bush
    Bride: Elizabeth Jane Saunders, age 17 (b.1866), Spinster, Address: Holly Bush
    Marriage: 14th April 1883, St Sannan, Bedwellty, Monmouthshire
    G/Father: Edward Hamer, Deceased
    B/Father: David Saunders, Collier
    1st witness: David Saunders
    2nd witness: Ruth Saunders

    I'm not sure when Thomas' father (Edward) died.
     
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    Been checking out the Thomas above, he's not yours. This chap was born in Newtown.
     
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    Many thanks for your help i was hoping that i might have found him and his family as my father was an only child and his father was an only son and it looked like that Thomas may have been the only other male line of our family..
     
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    Could well be. Blackwell Cottage is only about 1 mile from Bicton and about the same from Clun.
     
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    The Aaron Whiston of Knighton mentioned in the article ran the Crown Hotel in Broad street Knighton until his death on 14th December 1845.

    The daughters name was Hannah, she married William Weyman and they ran the Chandos Arms Hotel, High Street, Knighton.
     
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    Chimp could you help confirm for me that under the section"Note on Husband: William COLES - shared note" in the following page http://www.hoadly.co.uk/hoadly2/fam659.html the Charlotte and Edward are the forerunners of my family , thank you.
     
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    WOW the colour of that page hurts your eyes :eek:

    I'll take a look, where's my :ghost:
     
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    Just thought I'd mention that Family Search have the 1881 Census for free viewing.
     
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    Ok We know that Edward Hamer Married Charlotte Price in Bishops Castle in 1858. Charlotte was living in Bishops Castle. On the image she says her father was David Price

    Charlotte died in 1870 aged 30. This would give a birth of c 1840.

    There is a baptism in Bishops Castle of a Charlotte Price with parents David and Jane on 1st February 1840.

    Jane Coles (a widow) married David Price (bachelor) in Snead, Mongomaryshire on 4th November 1839.

    So yes I would say this is your family
     
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    The William Coles mentioned on the page was baptised on 15th May 1829 in Bishops Castle . He was the son of Edward and Jane Coles.

    Edward Coles married Jane Bird on 20th September 1826 in Snead

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    1841 census HO107, Piece 920, Book 18, Folio 8, Page 10

    David Price, age 25, (b.1816), Agricultural Labourer, Shropshire
    Jane Price, age 30, (b.1811), Shropshire
    Charlotte Price, age 2, (b.1839), Shropshire
    Elizabeth Coles, age 6, (b.1835), Shropshire

    Address: Whitcott, Shropshire (not far from Clun)


    1851 census HO107, Piece 1983, Folio 218, Page 28

    David Price, Head, Married, age 29, (b.1822), Labourer, Shropshire,
    Jane Price, Wife, Married, age 46, (b.1805), Bishops Castle
    Charlotte Price, Daughter, age 11, (b.1840), Scholar , Bishops Castle
    Elizabeth Coles, Daughter, age 17, (b.1834), House Work, Bishops Castle

    Address: Horse Fair, Bishops Castle, Shropshire
    (Horse Fair is now Station Road)
     
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    Am trying to get confirmation of the Death of Edward Hamer , born
    1833 at St Harmon, Radnorshire , i have been told an age upon death but find it very unlikely so am trying to find . thanks.
     
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    When Edward married Charlotte in 1858 he says his father is Edward Hamer a labourer.

    In the censuses he says he was born in St Harmon, Radnorshire in about 1833.

    There is a baptism for an Edward Hamer in St Harmon, Radnorshire on 29th April 1832. Parents Edward (labourer) & Margery (nee Morgan). They were living at Cwmnant S(?) :eek: can't make out the name of the place, you try :D

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    Do you think he is yours?
     
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    Probably nought to do with anything,- but a lovely photo.:
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    Stable Cottage in Cwm Nantcol, Gwynedd
     
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    The closest "Cwm Nant" seems to be near Llanyre .
     
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    St Harmon, Radnorshire is about 5 miles north of Rhayader
     
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