I'm starting a new thread because although this is linked to my "Roberts or Brooke?" thread, it's really a whole new family. I've been sucked in... Charlotte Marriott Rance was born 1822 at St Luke, London to Thomas Francis Rance and Ann Eldridge. She is with them at St Luke in 1841 In 1844 she married Henry James, in Broadwater by Worthing, Sussex for some reason His father was John James In 1851 she was with her sister Mary at uncle William Brooke Robert's house in Maidstone. She was married, but he was not there. Both sisters were annuitants. I cannot find a definite sighting of her after this. Henry was, I think, in St Luke, London born 1817 St Luke Old Street, a GP. He is with his father John 66, mother Hester 59, and siblings. in 1861 and 1871 he is in Weybridge, Surrey, with family, a surgeon, married but no wife. In 1880 if I'm right he marries Katherine M MacDonald in Ramsgate, but its only under select marriages so I don't know if he was a widower. They are living in Ramsgate in 1881 and Brighton in 1891. So my question is: is this all the same person, and what happened to Charlotte?
Are you sure he was a surgeon? The Law Times 1844 17th August page 390 Volume 3: James, Henry esq. Secondary of London and of Worthing to Charlotte Marriott second daughter of the late Thomas F Rance, esq on the 10th inst. at Broadwater Church Sussex. A gentleman's magazine 1844 page 423: At Broadwater, Sussex, Henry third son of John James to Charlotte Marriot, second daughter of the late Thomas F Rance esq.
In 1851 his father was a secondary (is that a legal thing?) and he was a GP at that point. That notice seems to confirm I'm on the right track, and explains why they married in Worthing. I didn't know he had 2 older brothers though
To be honest I have no idea what a secondary is. Just that it was in a law magazine! Come to think of it. Does the Secondary do all the run around work? Law clerk? Still studying? Junior lawyer? Who knows!
I think along those lines also Sue, or a person who is next in line of importance in what ever job. Here it is used for another person:
1871, RG10; Piece: 2374; Folio: 48; Page: 30; Taunton St James Mary Lowten 29, head, widow, milliner Kate F Lowten 3, dau Jane Newton 43, sister Charlotte James 50, lodger,married, wife of a medical man, London Mary Rance 47, lodger, unmarried, living on interest of money, London Alice M Page 22, married, independant, Devon William J B Page 1 Month, son, Taunton Somerset This could be Mary Rance in 1881, not with Charlotte. RG11; Piece: 1244; Folio: 37; Page: 27;
Ooh that's good, she's with her sister Mary again. The don't half move about the country! I guess she didn't get on with Henry.
Henry James of 62 Comeragh rd. West Kensington, Middlesex, F.R.C.S. died 9 July 1900 probate- London 1st Aug.to Katherine Maria James, widow & Charles Edmund Vickers solicitor/ effects £ 8976.19s.3d. add on: 1901 England Census Name: Katharine James-widow Age: 82 Estimated birth year: abt 1819 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: St George, London, England Civil Parish: Fulham 62 Comeragh Rd RG13; Piece: 63; Folio: 52; Page: 43
It's certainly better than a few trees I've just seen which have her dancing between New York & England with the birth of a son in 1870. & living with a husband Henry [gen lab'r] in Suffolk 1881.
1891 census, he is with her at Eaton Place Brighton. Retired surgeon living on own means. Estimated birth 1817 1881 census with her at Elma Joss Villa Ramsgate Kent. b1817 No show so far 1871.
?? Henry James Felllowship of royal colledge of Surgeons Age: 54 Relation: Head b: London, abt 1817 Civil Parish: Weybridge Town: Weybridge County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Chertsey Henry James 54 Anne James 55 Sister Katherine M Macdonald -W-59, visitor Eliza Welsh 47 serv. Charlotte Buss 21 serv. Thomas Hawkins 15 serv. Class: RG10; Piece: 803; Folio: 92; Page: 8 ....................... Perhaps the 7 yr rule of desertion applies here? Not found Charlotte with certainty in deaths up to 1911
Hope to heaven I haven't missed something else......but will tell you anyway that I have found an obit for Thomas Francis Rance in the Gentleman's magazine 1843. June 29 Aged 55, Thomas Francis Rance esq of the City Road. Many years surgeon to the City of London Lying in Hospital and to the parochial infirmary of St Luke. I was also wondering where the name 'Marriott' had come from then found just a small snippet in the index of the London Gazette Vol 1 1845 'Thomas Francis Rance (Rance and others) v Marriott and others...page 295. This is after Thomas Francis death so may have something to do with winding up his affairs.
Maybe this is the connection to Charlotte Marriott Rance's name.!!!!!! 'Thomas Marriott (1786-1852). British philanthropist, was born in Hoxton Square, London. He was the son of Methodist philanthropist William Marriott. One of his earliest memories is that of seeing John Wesley in his coffin. Marriott married Charlotte Emelie Instell Rance in 1808. Marriott built an extensive library and Methodist memorabilia collection. Upon his death in 1852, he left 10,000 pounds to the Wesleyan Missionary Society and the rest of his estate to support the Worn-Out Preachers Fund.' catalog.gcah.org General Commission on Archives and History. The United Methodist Church.
Ah-ha....Charlotte Emilie Instell Rance was the step-daughter of Walter Griffin. Sorry, Walter Griffith.
Thomas Francis Rance's son also Thomas Francis died in Canada. http:// geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/902458
Thomas Francis and Samuel Henry Rance sons of Thomas Henry who died 1843 are on the 1851 Canadian census.
