Decima Robinson

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  1. Elma

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    I am trying to find my way in the woods!

    My relative Walter Luff was widowed and his second wife is a bit of a mystery to me, she was called Decima Robinson. At her wedding to Walter Luff in 1890 she records her name as Decima Cross, a widow and she records her father as Joseph Robinson, a Wine Merchant.
    I am trying to work out who she really is as I have found a marriage on 25 Dec 1872 to John Cross but as it is a transcription in England Marriages 1538-1973 it says her name is Decima Bowen Robinson. Another transcription on 5 Feb 1871 shows a possible marriage to John Bowen. I would really like to find Decima Robinson Bowen Cross in the censuses before her marriage to my relative in 1890. On the 1891 census she gives her place of birth as Leicester 1849. She died in 1899. Can anyone help please?

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    FreeBMD has the marriage entry for John Cross and Decima Bowen in Dec qtr 1872 in Bedminster (south side of Bristol), but I didn't spot the one you mention in 1871.

    I've also found a possible birth registration: Decimal (sic) Robinson, Jun qtr 1845 Leicester, 15/87 - from FreeBMD and view of page. The GRO index has the reference wrong (p.387), but gives mmn LUCK. I didn't spot any other children with that combination of names. (Incidentally there was also a Decima Emma Robinson born 1851 in Shoreditch - better date, but wrong location.)

    Nor could I find a marriage of Joseph Robinson to a Luck - except one in London in 1825 where Maria Luck was a widow. It made me wonder if Decima's mother had been a widow, so the marriage will be under a different name.

    I also had a quick look at the 1851 and 1861 censuses to see if I could spot the family around Leicester, but no-one jumped out at me.

    Tiny steps - but they might help a bit...
     
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  3. MollyMay

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    I wonder if this is Decima in 1851
    HO107/2023/527/3 - Ablewell St. Wallsall, Staffs

    No father - head is Maria b1801 Surrey
    Decima has a yob as 1845
     
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    RG11; Piece: 2456; Folio: 101; Page: 15
    Decima and John Cross in 1881' transcribed as Dessima by Ancestry
     
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    1841 census HO107 p1080 bk4 f6 p7 - Guildford Surrey

    Joseph is listed as Schoolmaster (not wine merchant)
     
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    Thanks Arthur I found the 1871 marriage on FMP (transcription). I don't really want to spend money on the marriage certificates as Decima only joined our family for a short while, there were no children of this last marriage. I just wanted to know a little more about her. The Leicester birth sounds promising. By the time Decima married my relative in 1890 she was living in Bristol, near where her ? two previous marriages were. Thank you, your help is appreciated.
     
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    Thanks MollyMay, it could be a possibility. Not much else out there. I wonder what the name Decima could also be called ?Emma. What an elusive lady, thanks again.
     
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    That looks good Londoner. I am not sure if I am clutching at straws but here John Cross is an assistant in a Brewery and Decima's father was once recorded as a wine merchant. I live in hope, thank you.
     
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    OK, found the 1871 marriage - not helped by Decima being spelt Deserman.

    Also a death for James Bowen - Jun qtr 1872 in Bedminster, age 29, which tallies with the age in the marriage transcription. Haven't spotted them in 1871 census, though.

    1881 census as found by Londoner has a big X through John Cross's age, but it looks like 60-something, or maybe exactly 60. No obvious death in GRO - the best I found was Dec qtr 1885 in Bedminster, age 60.
     
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    Thanks ArthurK. that is helpful. Such short marriages and it appears no children. Small steps but I think along the right road.
     
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    To all the people who have contributed to this thread. I would like to say thank you. All contributions however small or remotely connected are always useful. As Arthur said tiny steps..... Londoner gave us the 1881 census, ArthurK then suggested a possible death. Well those facts just led me to a newspaper report of John Cross and his death in 1885, the address is the same as the 1881 census. So now its big steps and thank you to all who have helped.
     

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    Glad to have been able to contribute!
     
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    Me too!
     
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    Just to add that the name "Decima" immediately suggested to me that she was a tenth child (from the Latin for 10), just as Septimus is a seventh and Octavia is an eighth. Middle-class parents, or parents with a little education, often did that sort of thing. But there is nothing to stop people using such a name if they just like it, of course.
     
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    That makes sense Barley thanks.
     

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