Albert Richard Hallums 1816

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  1. BLH

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    I have an Albert Richard Hallums B 12 May 1816, Upnor Kent, (christian name records sometimes show Helbert.) was in the Merchant Navy there are records of his voyages up to 1847 -

    He married Margaret Catto B 1816 in Edinburgh 1850, then disappears, cannot locate a death record. Margaret may have remarried.

    Can anyone assist please.
     
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    There's a Mates Certificate of Service dated 1851 on Ancestry for 23 years as a Appl Seaman & Mate in the British Merchant Service in the Foreign & Coasting Trade. There's also the claim for a Certificate of Service which states his actual service from 1838.
     
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    Hi Sis,

    Thanks for offering to email the above certs, but I already copies of the above plus Albert's discharge from the Dreadnaught Seamans Hospital and Scottish Marriage cert. What I cannot locate is any death record . Although there is a marriage record for a Margaret Catto with a chap called Shanks, I don't think this is a remarriage as the dates don't fit, but the parents are of the same name. If Margaret didn't remarry then both Albert and Margaret seems to have disappeared after 1850
     
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    Albert Richard & Margaret HALLUM are in the 1851 census of Aberdeen. They are living at 21 James Street, Aberdeen, where he is shown as aged 33 and a Merchant Seaman. Margaret is shown as aged 23 born Newburgh, so born c1828 according to the census record.

    But then, like you, I can find no trace of either of them whatsoever at the moment. Will keep searching though.

    Janet
     
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    There is a marriage of a Margaret CATTO and John McPHERSON on 21st September 1855 in Aberdeen where Margaret is recorded as "widow, second marriage". (Note: Scottish marriages record either maiden name or previous married name... :rolleyes: )

    Family Search has this couple as the parents of a John McPHERSON who was born on 2nd December 1866. Margaret is recorded with a surname of "CATTO or HALLUMS".

    From this, I surmise that Albert died some time between 1851 (where @janetbooth found them in the census) and 1855, when Margaret remarried.
     
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    Note: Civil registration in Scotland did not start until 1st January 1855, so it may well be a case of searching Parish Records.

    Margaret and John married in the parish of St Nicholas, Aberdeen.
     
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    In 1861, Margaret and John have a son, Alexander aged 4 and are living in Sugar House Lane, St Nicholas, Aberdeen where John is a Merchant Seaman.
     
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    This seems a likely event. I didn't realise the Scottish system recorded either maiden or previous names. Can I ask which search program you used, having now found the linked marriage on Ancestry there is no indication that this is a second marriage for Margaret, same with Family Search. I have found at least four children to this marriage. I did a search of the Parish records on Ancestry but nothing re Albert's death, could be not all the Scottish records a available.
     
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    I had a spare credit for Scotlands People. ;)
     
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    I expect Daft Bat found the information on Scotlands People (a pay per view site where you have to buy credits to see the actual records, though searching, I think, is free). Just Google Scotlands People. I can't do a link as it is pay per view, though I'm sure some person cleverer than me will be able to do a "broken link" ;)
     
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    I knew it :D
     
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    Well found, Jan, and I have now learned something new as well! I too searched on Scottish People but under the surname of HALLUM(S).

    Janet
     
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