When did they arrive?

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    OH's great grandparents are William Rodgers/Rogers and Mary Jane Emmerson/Emerson who were married in Aghalurcher, County Fermanagh, Northern Ireland on 21 Sept 1866, I have their marriage certificate. Both give their age as 22 and both of their father’s were farmers, though William’s occupation is not given. I can’t find their arrival in Australia, trees have them arriving 9 Nov 1866, in Melbourne, but unless there was gale force winds behind them all the way I can’t see them making it from Ireland to Liverpool then to Melbourne in 49 days. Their first of 10 children was born in Sandhurst district, Victoria in 1867. They have set my head spinning looking for them, but that's not hard to do.:rolleyes:
     
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    Just a quick look at Unassisted Inward Passengers List on Public Records Victoria, there is a William Rodgers ship Ellen Stuart master Rufus Lyons,
    arrived Feb 1867 he is 25 years
    Mary J Rodgers ship Ellen Stuart, same details she is 22.
    Will try and find more comprehensive details.
    I think it could be them as so far I can’t see them with any one else of that surname.
     
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    Thanks Sue. That's the one trees have and now I have a second look at it I mistook the date on the paperwork which is probably the date he wrote it out. Said my head was spinning. But I couldn't find any more details and Rodgers is not an uncommon name I am a bit reluctant to just accept it's them. Appreciate your help.
     
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    That’s the only couple with those names in that time frame that is coming up.
    Can’t seem to find the passenger list though.
     
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    William's occupation on the manifest of February 1867 is Farmer.

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    No I couldn't either. Thanks for trying.
     
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    Said my head was spinning, 40 here today! That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.:D Being such a common surname I still feel I need more evidence. Then again I guess a time frame of their marriage of 1866 and the birth of their first child in 1867 will have to be enough. Thanks Chimp.
     
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    Rodgers
    Wm
    1842
    1867
    Victoria Inward Passenger Lists 1839-1923
    Australasia
     
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    The date of 9th November 1866 was the date the captain signed the manifest to say he had taken on enough provisions for 25 Statute Adults to last a voyage of 140 days. (I have seen this before, the voyage may not take that long but by law they had to have enough provisions to last in case of any hold ups)
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    Bendigo Advertiser - Mon 18 Feb 1867 - Page 2
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    From and including: Friday, 9 November 1866
    To, but not including Friday, 15 February 1867

    Result: 98 days
    It is 98 days from the start date to the end date, but not including the end date.

    Or 3 months, 6 days excluding the end date.
     
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    The Kyneton Observer - Tue 19 Feb 1867 - Page 2
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    Ooh, ooh all 10 children were registered in Sandridge. Thanks very much Chimp.

    I could have sworn I tried Trove, obviously not.:rolleyes:
     
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    Thanks must go to @Archie's Mum who found them first. I just followed up ;)
     
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    I did in post#6.;):)
     
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    Hubby’s great grandfather came to Melbourne on the Clipper, Red Jacket, it did the trip in 68 days. That was moving along. I think it was also in 1867
     
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    No, 'tis me and my spinning head.:D:rolleyes:
     
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    1854 not 1867.
     
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    That was supposed to say sorry not sport :rolleyes:
     
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