There are 3 entries for Holly Bank Stables - those living there appear to be servants (to a large house?), and if Frank was a gardener he might have resided there as part of his employment, but no sign of Alice and Thomas Henry come census time - perhaps they had to leave when Frank went into the Tunbridge Union. So no further forward
Just googling Holly Bank and found a course listed for the 'Lost Houses of Tunbridge Wells' - and in the bit I can read without downloading the whole course is "Some of them are well-known, like Dunorlan; and some perhaps forgotten, like Holly Bank and the cottages of Herveytown" So it looks like the cottage they had was in Hervytown, as per the bap. entry.
They were the only ones I found @MollyMay . Thanks for looking - it helps to have another pair of eyes look in-case something obvious has been missed
Well, that will keep me quiet for a while - just did an address search on FMP for Hervey Town - there are 70 households in Hervey Town, Tonbridge and 2 for Hervey Town, Catherine Place, Tonbridge. I know which I will look at first B***er - looks like they are all for 1861
There is a small article in the Kent and Sussex Courier of 14 Nov 1913 about the Health Committee recommending the Council to make closing orders in respect of certain cottages in Hervey Court, Tunbridge Wells until in the judgement of the Town Council, these dwellings were rendered fit for human habitation The consideration of questions affecting other cottages in Hervey Court was adjourned.
I don't think we are going to find it - I have been trawling the Census Summary Books for Tunbridge Wells, on Anc. district 14 contains Holly Bank and Hervey Court but it looks to me like the relevant pages are missing. Perhaps you could check and make sure I have not missed them. Edit - there is an entry for Mr Baldwin 8 Holly Bank (Anc had frozen and not let me go to all the pages, but I started again and got beyond the first few pages) - now to try and find the actual census entry.
I think I tried that the other day, as I recognise the District number, but honestly can't remember if I looked all the way through. Will try again.
Curses (and more) The Baldwin's at 8 Holly Bank are Albert Thomas (age 38 born Uckfield Sussex) and Alice Louisa (also 38) with children Edith Mary age 14 and Herbert Cyril aged 3.
I think you are right @MollyMay - don't think we will find them I don't know when Alice got together with Thomas Haggar who she had a child with in 1913, but I have looked for both of them and found nothing (apart from a habitual drunk in 1911 and earlier who is about the right age. Would love it to be him, but doubt it . Maybe they will be stumbled across by accident one day.
Sorry for radio silence, been busy the last couple of days. Will have another look at this name change issue tomorrow.
No worries - and thank you. I have been trying to find a birth registration for Thomas Berry - without success. If he was born in Sydenham, that comes under the Lewisham Registration District. I also had a look for a John Berry, Gas Fitter, in the census and think I found one in 1881, but couldn't find him any earlier or later. Maybe Thomas / John Thomas Berry (father of Alice) was born a Baker - or his mother's maiden name was Baker. I will keep plodding.
I can't so far find a suitable Thomas Berry or Baker in any census. There's this Thomas Berry born in 1857:- BERRY, THOMAS HORROX GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in LEWISHAM UNION Volume 01D Page 659 This is the only Berry / Horrox marriage I can see:- Marriage: 18 Aug 1839 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England John Berry - of full age, Maker up, Bachelor, Pendleton Betty Horrox - (X), Minor, Spinster, Pendleton Groom's Father: James Berry, Carter Bride's Father: Joseph Horrox, Dyer Witness: Adam Horrox, (X); Thomas Gorse Married by Banns by: C. B. St. George Register: Marriages 1838 - 1840, Page 160, Entry 320 Source: Microfilm held by Manchester Central Library I can't at present find any of these people in any census records, but I'm going cross-eyed now!
Thanks @Sue036 for taking the time to look. I know how you feel about going cross-eyed looking - it got me like that, so have had a bit of a break from it for a few hours today.