Hi, I'm trying to find the parents of Charles, Thomas, Constance, and Albert Clements. Albert married my grandfather's sister Cynthia in 1948 and all I can find is the maiden name 'Monk'. Unfortunately I can't find their first names Charles was born in 1916 and as far as I know is the eldest, there could be more. I have looked for marriages in the Grantham area (I assume that is roughly where they married) and to no avail so far. Can anyone help me please? Thanks
I have just had a look for Clements/Monks marriages from 1910 to 1920 on FreeBMD and found three: Edmonton, Dartford and Chelmsford. There is no guarantee that they married in Lincolnshire - or that the maiden name of the mother was used if she was married previously, if you see what I mean. However, rather than making a stab in the dark, the best way would be to obtain a copy of Albert's birth certificate as that will give you the information to search for the marriage as well as possible census entries.
There is also a Reginald registered in Grantham 8 years after Charles, but like Jan cannot find a Lincolnshire marriage, there is another in Totnes in 1909 - Thomas Herbert to either Emma Monk or Ellen Frances Harradon.
thank you both so much, I had seen the above too and that had me thinking they could have married outside the county. I have asked the granddaughter if she knows the names and/or where they married. The remarrying point is a very good one too. I shall look into obtaining a copy of the birth cert. I have so many of those to buy!
I have just been informed that she had married again and to try the surname Turner. I wasn't a first name just 'granny Clements'
Not what you asked for but it does help with their parents names. Births Sep 1919 Constance E J Clements (mmn Monk) Grantham 7a 660 on this site http:// obits(dot)dignitymemorial(dot)com there is an obituary for Constance. In Memory of Constance E.J. Eller July 16, 1919 - October 2, 2013 Obituary Constance Eliza Joyce Eller a resident of Los Angeles County for over 57 years Passed away on October 1St, 2013 At Cerritos California. Constance was born on July 16, 1919 in England to his (sic) parents Charles William Clements and Eliza Monk . She was Home maker for over 60 years. Left behind to cherish the precious moments spent with Constance are her family and friends. Groom: Irvin L T Eller Bride: Constance E J Clements Marriage Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1944 Grantham 7A 1239 On 13th November 1947 Constance, Irvin and what looks to be his parents and maybe a sister sailed for New York from Southampton on the Marine Falcon. Irvin's father (?) Francis was a Minister. Their last address was British Rectory, Grantham. Passengers were Francis Eller 67 (minister) Cora Eller 58 (house wife) Isobel Eller 38 (telephonist) Irvin Eller 31 (clerk) Constance Eller 28 (house wife)
Not what I asked for but still a great find! thank you very much Chimp, it is great to get as much of a picture as possible. Interesting to see that she only recently passed away too!
Marriages Mar 1907 Francis Arthur T ELLER married Cora Cecilia C Lewis in Stockton 10a 88. Cora's full name was Cora Cecilia Constance Huron Lewis. To try and ascertain if Francis and Cora were Irvin's parents I tried looking for a birth for Irvin but couldn't find one. Isobel was their daughter born c1909. She apparently was born in Saskatchewan, Canada. Her full name was Isobel Cora Francis Huron Eller. Having looked at the in-coming passengers from New York, arriving at Liverpool on 2nd July 1916 on the St. Louis there is an Irvin. Francis (minister) Cora (wife) Isobel, ?, Alice and Irvin. So looks like Irvin was also born abroad. United States Social Security Death Index Irvin Lewis Thorold Eller birth: 27 April 1916 death: 20 April 2005 Bell, California aged 88 years 1901 Francis Arthur Thorold ELLER (Irvin's father) aged 21 licensed reader boarder residing S Genwys rectory Scotton Lincolnshire Francis was son of the Revd Irvin Thorold ELLER and his wife Frances Harriet STOCKDALE niece of the Revd FS STOCKDALE of Alkborough, and among the first Anglican catechists in the diocese Saskatchewan Canada
On the 1930 United States, living in Long Beach, Los Angeles, California Constance Eller Head F 58 England Isabel C Eller Daughter F 21 Canada Barbara Eller Daughter F 20 England Alice Eller Daughter F 17 Canada Irvin Eller Son M 14 Massachusetts So the missing child from above is Barbara. Births Sep 1910 Barbara W D T ELLER Durham 10a 45 OK I'll stop now, as I seem to be straying from the path a bit
Hmmmm He seems to have gone by a different name to what he was baptised with. familysearch have the image of his baptism and that gives his name as Irvin Francis Lewis Eller born 27 April 1916 Leicester, Worcester, Massachusetts, baptised 25th May 1916. Father Francis A T Eller, Mother Cora C Lewis https:// familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-26786-13045-3 OK Chimp, step away
Hi there Hhttp: //archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CLEMENTS/2010-12/1292949125 This old rootsweb post may be of interest, tho it does not seem to be accurate - eg the 1891 marriage may be to Edith Taylor, not Turner and the 1916 is to Eliza Turner not Monk. The suggestion that Charles William had been previously married may be worth checking out however.
family search have this marriage Groom: Albert Frederick Turner, Age: 23 Bride: Eliza Monk, Age: 18 Marriage: 29 Apr 1899, St. James The Greater Church, Derby, Derbyshire G/Father: John Turner B/Father: George Monk They can be found on the 1911 census RG14PN19684 RG78PN1180 RD417 SD2 ED8 SN127 living at 23 Brewery Hill Grantham Albert Frederick Turner 35 Head Engine Fitter Eliza Turner 30 Wife Licenser Victualler William Henry Turner 8 Son Hilda Frona 8 Niece Edith Besraley 16 Servant Domestic Servant (says they were all born in Grantham but Albert's birth was registered in the Derby registration district in 1876) Now to get rid of Albert Deaths Sep 1914 Albert F Turner 38 Grantham 7a 463 If this is the correct marriage Albert dying in 1914 would leave Eliza free to marry Charles William Clements in 1916
Albert Frederick Turner Christening Date: 30 Apr 1876, St. James the Greater Church, Derby, Derbyshire, Father: John Turner, Mother: Mary Ann Turner Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02433-9, GS Film number: 2082204 ,
Well done Chimp - I had been trying to find the Monk/Turner marriage without success, probably because I started at 1900!
I couldn't find it for ages either MollyMay because I limited the search to Lincolnshire. It was only after widening my search that I found it.
Albert and Eliza can be found in Derby in 1901 RG13/3216/110/5 - it appears both are born in Derbyshire Eliza and her family are on the 1891 RG12/2727/135/16 and 1881 RG11/3400/30/7 in Derbyshire.
Thank you all so much! I can get adding the extra info to the tree It was and is very much of interest! I will see if I can contact Peter and if we can share some information as my second cousins are Clements and interested in their family history as their parents died when they were both young Chimp, you sir are a legend! thank you so much and MollyMay thank you also for being a star!
