Can anyone tell me anything about this Elizabeth Benn who, as Elizabeth Giles, Widowed Boarding House Keeper, married my g-father William John Partridge 08/05/1901 at St Jude, Paull, E Yorks (Junqtr 1901 Hull 9 d 479). According to the Marriage Cert. she was daughter of Henry Benn, Innkeeper, but the 1851 & 1861 censuses for Docking show Henry as a Waggoner/Farm Carter, while there was another family of Benns at the Bell Inn, Docking. However, in 1871 Henry was at the Bell Inn, with a new wife and step-children, but also two of Elizabeth's sisters, Eliza b1859 & Lydia b1857. There had also been William b1849 & Henry b1855 in the previous census. Elizabeth at that time was General Servant at 49 Park Avenue, Kingston-on-Hull. I have not found her actual birth entry, or her marriage to anyone called Giles, or in either the 1881 or 1891 census under either name. Nobody in my family knew of her existence; in fact finding anything about my g-father later than 1888 was quite a triumph for me, as nobody knew what became of him after he supposedly left for Australia when my father was about five. My father talked of him as though he were still alive in the 1920s, but he had actually died in 1912. Thanks for anything to add to my knowledge, FredP.
A possible timeline for Elizabeth Benn. Marriages Sep 1871 Hull 9d 316 BENN Elizabeth, also indexed, Tindall John Deaths Sep 1887 Tindall John age 41 Hull 9d 188 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Marriages Dec 1889 Hull 9d 535 Tindall Elizabeth, also indexed Burns James Robert Deaths Jun 1894: BURNS James Robert 36 Hull 9d 134 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Marriages Dec 1896 Sculcoates 9d 277 BURNS Elizabeth, also indexed Giles Fred Fenby Deaths Dec 1899: Giles Fred Fenby 31 Sculcoates 9d 118 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'll look for her on census returns now we know her probable surnames
1881, 2 Dukes Ter Hull. RG11; Piece: 4779; Folio: 12; Page: 18 John Tindale 35, general labourer, Leadsham Yorks Elizabeth Tindale 30, Docking Norfolk Louisa Saltmar[sic] 7, visitor, Yorkshire Woodstall??? 1891, a lodging house in Hull, RG12; Piece: 3935; Folio: 57; Page: 29 James Burns 36, lodging house manager, Manchester. Elizabeth Burns 39, RG12; Piece: 3935; Folio: 57; Page: 29
1901, Hull. RG13; Piece: 4503; Folio: 5; Page: 2 Elizabeth Giles 50, lodging house keeper, Docking Norfolk Gertrude C Drayton 23, boarder Ida L Drayton 22, boarder Hobert Batoman 26, boarder
Groom: John Tindall, age 25, Single Bride: Elizabeth Benn, age 21, Single Marriage: 16 Sep 1871, Holy Trinity Church, Hull, Yorkshire G/Father: Walter Tindall B/Father: Henry Benn
Groom: Henry BENN, Bachelor, Labourer, Signed X Bride: Susan BENSTEAD, Spinster Marriage Date: 11 Mar 1849, St Mary, Docking, Norfolk G/Father: James BENN, Labourer B/Father: William BENSTEAD, Labourer Witness 1: Henry HOWELL Witness 2: Jane FRAMINGHAM, Signed X Married By Banns, bride & Groom both Of Full Age. Register Number: 92 Susan BENN Burial: 21 Jan 1867, Docking, Norfolk Groom: Henry BENN, age 48, Widower, Labourer, Signed X Bride: Mary Ann AWKER, age 37, Widow, Signed X Marriage Date 02 Oct 1868, St Mary, Docking, Norfolk G/Father: James BENN, Labourer B/Father: William RINGER, Labourer Witness 1: Joshua PLAYFORD Witness 2: Maria ROY Married By Banns Register Number: 308 Mary Ann BENN Death: 1876, Docking, Norfolk Looks like there may be this marriage too. Marriages Sep 1877 Henry BENN & Jane GREEN Docking 4b 499 They can be found on the 1881 census RG11, Piece 1992, Folio 41, Page 7 Bell Inn, Station Street, Docking, Norfolk So a case of like farther, like daughter. 3 marriages each Henry BENN 48 in 1868 gives a birth of 1820 Henry BENN Date Of Birth: 20 May 1820 Baptism Date: 11 Jun 1820, St Mary, Docking, Norfolk Father: James BENN, Mother: Jane Chambers BENN Father Occupation: Labourer Register Number: 319
What a pair we are! I too am over tired - I got woken early this morning by a woman who had mis-dialled a phone number, she was supposed to be calling her GP (one digit different to my number), the silly woman kept re-dialling , then finally left a message on my answer phone asking for an appointment. Hope you sleep better tonight
There seem to be more children for James and Jane, but Jane's name is transcribed on some as CHAMBERLAIN not CHAMBERS.
On the birth of Henry and Mary Ann's daughter (Mary Ann) in 1870 Henry is entered as a labourer. In 1873 they had a son, Edward Henry, Henry's profession is now an Inn Keeper. You say that Henry was at the Bell Inn in 1871, therefore Henry must have taken over sometime between 18th April 1870 (Mary Ann's baptism) and 2nd April 1871 (date of 1871 census) Baby Mary Ann died and was buried on 22nd April 1870. Young Henry son of Henry and Susan, baptised 28 Oct 1855, died in 1864 and was buried on 12th September 1864, aged 9 years.
Here are the baptisms of children for Henry and Susan; William, 27th June 1849 Elizabeth 1st September 1850 Ellen Emma, 18th March 1852(died and was buried 6th November 1852) Ellen Emma, 14th August 1853 Henry, 28th October 1855 Lydia, 20th September 1857 Eliza Jane, 7th August 1859 Susan, 10th November 1861
Still digesting, but I should very much like to know whether there are any descendents of Elizabeth's siblings around in Norfolk or elsewhere. FredP.
