1881 My Lyons have escaped

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  1. Chimp

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    Thanks Sis, this one also seems to have died not long after birth too, although the death doesn't appear on the GRO site.

    Last name LYONS
    Gender Female
    Death quarter 1
    Death year 1850
    District Birmingham
    Volume 16
    Page 276

    With this child only being "Female" I take it she wouldn't have lived to be Christened.

    I've found the baptism for little Terence.

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    I'm a bit reluctant to fork out on the marriage cert as this isn't my family.
     
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    See if you can find them in the 1861 census to see if that clarifies things.

    Hannah was a converter to Roman Catholicism (the record is on FMP) so maybe not as important.
     
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    William Wisbee married Sarah Ann Sidell and Thomas Westwood married Hannah Lysons:rolleyes: according to FMP's England Marriages Transcriptions set
     
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    I can't seem to find them on the 1861 census.
     
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    This marriage (also as Lysons) is on Ancestry, she was 20 so a birth of 1837. The 1851 census says Hannah Lyons was born 1820, her father is given as William Lysons a boot maker.
     
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    Yes, I have just found them in 1861 and she is 24 (he is 22) so a different couple. :(
     
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    I now have a copy of the marriage of Edward to Ann Orphin, it gives Edwards father as Terence Lyons.

    I have found a baptism on 22nd March 1819 in St. Audoen's, Dublin City, Ireland.

    Could someone who has FMP take a look at the original image and tell me what you think his mothers name is. FMP have it transcribed as Mary but I'm not convinced.

    Link to image:- 5th from top.
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    https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=IRE%2FPRS%2FMICROFILM06778-02%2F0096&parentid=IRE%2FPRS%2FBAP%2F2873610
     
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    The Irish Genealogy website have it transcribed as Margt. ;)

    Looking at the original, I am inclined to agree with them :)
     
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    Thanks Jan, that's what I thought it said.

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    What's that then?
     
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    This one:
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    https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
    :)
     
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    I wonder if this is Hannah's death.
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    That looks very promising. :)
     
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    My head is in a muddle - we are looking for Hannah not Harriet:oops:
    I have found Harriet in 1851 so not the right lady - sorry
     
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    You never know.... Those blasted ancestors were masters of disguise and I read it as Hannah as well. ;)
     
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    Trying to redeem myself but the best I can come up with is
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    The age is a bit out, but she is referred t as Anna/Hannah on the baptismal record.
    Not convinced, but I cannot find Anna Lines on the 1851 census
     

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