1939 missing relations

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    Sally-Ann New Member

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    Hi I wonder if anyone can help shed some light on an issue for me?
    In the 1939 census I have my Great Grandfather and Great Grandmother living with 1 child (record closed), though according to my records they should be at 5 children there.
    Earliest born 1923 and last 1933. I have been unable to find my Great Grandparents in any other census to be able to clarify any other information
    Any advice gratefully received
    Sally-Ann
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    Hello Sally-Ann and welcome to the forum! :D

    They could be staying with relatives/at school/with friends.... :confused:

    Could you post the details of your great grandparents so that we can have a rummage and see if we can find them. :)
     
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    Hello Jan and thank you

    Great Grandad is John H Barnholt and wife is Eunice. They live in London.
    John is originally from Denmark and his name is actually Johan Henry Holdorph Bjarnholt. Sometimes he goes by Henry, sometimes John. But he dropped the J in Bjarnholt and just went to Barnholt. Born 17 Nov 1890. I have all his time served in the war on his ships, but only the one census in 1939.
    Great Grandmother was Eunice Lilian May Bolton - born 8 feb 1898.

    If you need anymore info I can supply children names etc.
    Thank you for your help

    Sally-Ann :)
     
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    Evacuation of children began on 1st September 1939 and the 1939 register wasn't taken until 29 September so they could have been evacuated
     
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    Thank You- that could answer a lot. Problem is none of my great aunt and uncles are alive now to ask them.
     
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    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    If you just put Barnholt in the search on the 1939 register, you only get 2 hits - John and Eunice.
    Looking at their entry, there are other redacted entries above them, but it seems unlikely they are the missing children. If those children are now deceased, they should be 'open', but we know how hit and miss that can be.
    So they could be redacted anywhere on the register:(
     
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    if you give the childrens names and ages we might be able to find them sometimes the name transcriptions are a little different!
     
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    As long as they are no longer living. ;)
     
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    Children.
    Laura Barnholt 1923- has died though don’t know when
    Elsie Barnholt 1926 - has died though don’t know when
    Rose Isabelle Barnholt 1930-2016
    John Charles Barnholt 1932- has died though don’t know when
    Kathleen M Barnholt 1933-2016

    thank you
     
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    There is an Elsie W Barnholt(?) (married Shelley, then Tuck?) in Augola Road, Worthing, Sussex with an Irene F Kershaw. There are 3 redacted records below her, so may be brother and sisters.

    Elsie's birth date is given as 7 January 1926.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Births Mar 1926
    Barnholt Elsie W. Mmname- Bolton . St.Olave 1d-258
    Births Dec 1933
    Barnholt Kathleen M. Mmname = Bolton. St.Olave 1d-80
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    If all were born in St. Olave area perhaps the children were listed there in other Family or refuge places.
    Have you tried Ancestry electoral registers?
     
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    Thank you. I hadn’t found this census. That would make sense and would add up. Just have to wait for the records to become available to check. They have all died now so just have to wait for someone to press a button to release. thank you again
     
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    There was a John C Barnholt living at 4, Farley Road, Gravesend, Kent, from 2003 - 2016

    Doing a google search gives this information:-

    JOHN CHARLES BARNHOLT (Deceased) late of Hevercourt Care Home Goodwood Crescent Singlewell Gravesend, died on 14th February 2019
     
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    I sometimes always forget google. Thank you for this.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    This was actually a pre-war Register rather than a census Sally-Ann, if you canshow dates of death for thse whose names are covered & let the people behindthe scenes know, they will uncover those names.
     
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    Thank you
     
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    Who would you let know? Sorry still learning.
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    If you have a subscription through Find My Past you can do it on their site. You need a certified copy of the death certificate of the person you want opened to be able to proceed.
     
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    But you also have to tell them under what names they appear on the register and the address etc etc etc. If the names that are blanked out are not the ones you are looking for, they will not search for them elsewhere.
     
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