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  1. Findem

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    can anyone help with the bride's maiden name please.

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    According to FreeReg it's the marriage of William Woodfine to Jone Ey*d 10 Aug 1607 at Great Easton, Essex. Ey*d is how it is shown on FreeReg.

    I can make out Will Woodfine and Jone was married but the rest escapes if i could have some ideas what the maiden name is I might by a process of elimination find her.

    I can't find this marriage on Family Search or Ancestry's Essex Parish Register Index.
     
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    Are you certain it starts with an ‘E’ ?
    It looks like ‘?oy... but not an ‘E’...B or D maybe
     
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    I've found two entries on FMP. The first one is a transcription of Boyd's Marriage Index and it says Joan Haiward and the place as Easton Great, Essex. The second one is a transcription of Essex Marriages and Banns and says Jane Bernard and the place as Great Easton, Essex. As for my attempt at reading her surname, well I couldn't, sorry.:( Maybe someone with better eyes can make it out.;) Though I do agree with Jone.
     
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    I think the date starts with an E
     
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    Beynard perhaps
     
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    Could the first letter be a D because it looks as if it has a dot in the middle and according to my old Palaeography chart that can indicate a capital D. If so, that would make the first 3 letters DEY, next letter a "w" possibly and the last letter definitely looks to be a d. However, the only surname I can come up with using .EYW..D is HEYWARD and I must admit I have never seen an old capital H written like that. Sorry, not an awful lot of help. Looking at it once more, the bottom part of the first letter could be open like an old H, the top of the t of August making it look more closed than it is - if you get my drift! Still not too sure, though.

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    I want to make it Daywood or Deywood.
     
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    I'm in agreement with the capital D, but can't say whether it is Deywood or Deyward

    There are some (very few) entries on FreeBMD for Deywood/Daywood, and only one for Dayward -- not that it helps much
     
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    It IS an 'H' in my book. Heyward I think.
     
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    It certainly makes more sense for it to be an H, unfortunately my books are packed away ...
     
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    burt Where there's a will there's a way!

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    Sorry! I didn't put that well did I? Not referring to a book, but drawing on
    current experience, that is I am transcribing all the Wills for the Consistorial
    Court of the Archdeaconry of Chichester. I started at 1602 and am now up to 1609,so dealing with the very period Derek is studying. This example of a
    very pregnant looking 'H' I have come across occasionally, although it is
    possible it may not be found in the handwriting books.
     
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    One of my books shows a 'pregnant H' (nicely put, burt - I hadn't come across that before :cool:) with a dot in it.

    Derek - are there any other examples of 'H' and 'D' in the same hand that you can compare this with? (A higher definition image might also be useful, but if you're dependent on whatever you've found online I realise that might not be possible.)
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Just a quick one- eye playing up- "Morgan"?
     
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    Thank you all for the replies, you have all done much better than I did, I tried blowing it up but it made things no clearer so at the end of yesterday I had no clue at all. The best I could think of by looking at the whole shape of the surname is "is it Edwards" without much confidence, I'll try again concentrating first on the first letter rather than the whole thing.
     
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    I'll check through what I have, I do have an Alphabet I made up from SEAX in the free online days with an example of a surname beginning with that letter.
     
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    Just had a check against the Alphabet which an Early 1600s one and it has the appearance of either an H or D, I tried printing the image off to enable side by side comparing but printed it's very feint, the first letter being so feint as to be almost invisible.

    I agree the second letter looks like an e so I'm going to try baptism searches on He and De. It will be interesting to see what comes up in Gt Easton and surrounds but I will look at any other parish.

    Of course the printer played up it kept telling me it was not connected, to which in the end I replied "then why is the printer b****y light on?", got no answer. :mad: :rolleyes: :D Move the plug from one port to another and then off it went six useless copies, think I need a new hub.
     
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    Does this lighter copy help anyone.

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    I’m putting my money on Jone/Joane Hayward/Heyward. There are quite a few of them to choose from in your area of research. But it’s a definate d on the end. :rolleyes:
     
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    I'll give Heyward a try.

    Yes it does Sis thanks for that.
     
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