Anne George nee Dell is such a lady. She married John George 19 Sep. 1836 in Hemel Hempstead, Herts. Their daughter Emma married Alfred Rowledge 17 Oct. 1859 in St. Marylebone, Westminster[?] and from the marriage cert. it would appear that her father was an Engineer and was deceased. I have my doubts about the occupation stated but am satisfied it is the correct parentage. In 1851 census - H0107/1700/232/17 - Ann and John along with their children are living @ Little Common, Great Stanmore, Harrow, Middlesex and John is a labourer. The children were: Emma - age 11 - actually born 2nd q. 1839 John - age 11 - actually born 1st q. 1843 Philip - age 4 - actually born 3rd q. 1846 Susan - age 2 - actually born 2nd q. 1849 In addition to those children above, it would appear that that they lost several as infants: Sarah - born 2nd q. 1838 and died 3rd q. 1838 - Hemel Hempstead Unnamed - born 1st q.1841 and died same q. 1841 - Hemel Hempstead Mary Ann - born 4th q.1841 and died 2nd q. 1842 - Hemel Hempstead James - born 2nd q. 1845 and died 3rd q. 1845 - Hendon Union Unnamed - born 2nd q. 1848 and died sme q. 1848 - Hendon Union Ann - born 4th q. 1854 and died same q. 1854 - Hendon Union I thought I had matched the death of the John George - as noted on the marriage cert. - to a death in Hemel Hempstead, but on checking the age of death in the GRO the one I had - 1st q. 1859 vol. 3a page 219 was aged 16 - is obviously not my John. I have located the 3 surviving children [other than my Emma] as follows in 1861 John - is a Lodger occupation Hammerman and living with the Austin family in St. George Hanover Square - RG9/40/52/8 Philip - is a Farm Servant living with his employer William Woodward in St. Albans, Herts. - RG9/831/53/10 Susan - is living with her Grandparents James and Susan Dell in St. Albans, Herts. - RG9/839/107/10 Can John and Ann be found in 1861 and later? Looking at John George prior to his marriage to Ann Dell, he was likely the son of James and Sarah [nee Beck] and was baptised in St. Pater St. Albans Jan. 1815 and Ann Dell was likely the daughter of James and Susannah [maiden name not found] and was baptised in Hemel Hempstead, Herts. 11 Jul. 1819.