Albert Charles Sach

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  1. Lone Pine

    Lone Pine Her Grandad would be so proud of her

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    Hi
    Could someone do a look up for me I have an Albert Sach in my tree, I managed to get on Ancestry War Records (as it was free) and it lists his address as Park Lane Aveley Essex, now because its Aveley its a sure bet that he is an ancestor of my Hubby, his Father was John Sach born Aveley c 1864 and his Mother was Jessie Wesley not sure where she was born but I have a date of c 1867. Albert was born in 1892 (not sure where, but bet it would be in Essex) but he seems to have enlisted in the army in November 1909. Can anyone look up a census for me to confirm that it is an ancestor. Not sure if he married.

    I am also looking at siblings of Albert (1) Arthur Sach born c 1900 and also (2) Walter Sach born 1899 and if anyone has time (3) Ivy Jessie Sach again they would have been born in Essex my feeling is again Aveley, just wondered if they married and who they married. I know about William Sach as that is my Hubby's Grandfather and manged to do some of the others but these 4 I did not. Thank you.
     
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    1891 Census - RG12, Piece 1375, Folio 52, Page 4

    High Street, Aveley, Orsett, Essex

    John Sach, Head, 26, 1865, Groom, Essex, England
    Jessie Sach, Wife, 23, 1868, Essex, England
    Walter J Sach, Son, 3, 1888, Essex, England

    Cant find them in 1901

    1911 Census (FMP have SACK)

    Park Lane Aveley Essex

    John Sack, Husband, Married, 46, 1865, Bricklayer, South Ockendon
    Jessie Sack, Wife, 43, 1868, Ridgewell Norton
    Albert Charles Sack, Son, Single, 19, 1892, Farm Labourer, Aveley
    Arthur Sack, Son, Single, 11, 1900, School, Aveley
    Ivy Jessie Sack, Daughter, 3, 1908, Aveley

    1911 census say 7 children all living
     
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    Found them

    1901 Census - RG13, Piece 1658, Folio 61, Page 4

    High Street Blows Row, Aveley, Orsett, Essex

    John Sach, Head, Married, 33, 1868, Essex
    Walter J Sach, Son, Single, 12, 1889, Aveley, Essex
    Albert C Sach, Son, Single, 9, 1892, Aveley, Essex
    Ellen M Sach, Daughter, Single, 7, 1894, Aveley, Essex
    William G Sach, Son, Single, 4, 1897, Aveley, Essex
    Arthur Sach, Son, Single, 1, 1900, Aveley, Essex

    Jessie is in the household of the Shelleys @ High Street, Aveley, Orsett, Essex.

    RG13, Piece 1658, Folio 61, Page 4

    Her occupation is entered as General Servant Labourer, this has been crossed out and AG (agricultural labourer) written instead.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Is this your lad?

    SACH,
    WALTER JOHN x WESLEY
    GRO Reference: 1888 S Quarter in ORSETT Volume 04A Page 358
     
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    The 7 children, all have mothers maiden name Wesley

    AMELIA - 1886
    WALTER JOHN - 1888
    ALBERT CHARLES - 1891
    ELLEN MARY - 1894
    WILLIAM GEORGE - 1897
    ARTHUR - 1900
    IVY JESSIE - 1911
     
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  6. MollyMay

    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    John Sach married Jessie Wesley 1885 Sept qtr Romford 4a 345

    1881 census sees Jane Westley at RG11/1804/142/10 working as a servant
    b1868 Stambourne (close to Rigdewell Norton as in 1911)

    1871 at Stambourne RG10/1699/164/12
    George Westley age 24 horsekeeper
    Julia Westley age 22 wife straw plaiter
    Jessa (Anc transcription) age 3
    Charles Albert age 1
    Amelia 2 months
    All born Stambourne

    Birth reg Jesse Westley 1867 Sept qtr Halstead 4a 354 mmn Hardy
     
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  7. Lone Pine

    Lone Pine Her Grandad would be so proud of her

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    Thank you, this is the part of the tree that I have not done yet so thank you. All I know is that Ellen Mary (sister of my Husband Grandfather William) caused a great scandal in the family by marrying her dead sisters Husband, and my Mother in Law said that she was not well liked in the family so I knew a bit about her thanks to MIL but unfortunately the others she did not know much about.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Sad reading when you find a situation like that Jane. I found one such in my family & was told the children didn't like her. :(
     

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