Ann Cheddy AKA Wilkinson nee Milton, missing in 1939

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  1. Sue036

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    Ann Milton was born in 1898 in Blackburn, Lancashire, and was the daughter of William Milton and Elizabeth (nee Higginson).

    In 1919 she married George Richard Cheddy, in Oswaldtwistle. As far as I can discover, they had no children. In 1923 George Cheddy went to Canada.

    Between 1928 and 1934 several children were born in the Fylde District registered both as Cheddy MMN Milton and as Wilkinson MMN Milton. In later life they were all known as Wilkinson. (I know that all of those children are now deceased, but not giving full details as a younger sibling may be still living.)

    An electoral register for 1931 lists 'Anne' Cheddy living with John Wilkinson in Marton, Blackpool.

    Ann Cheddy AKA Wilkinson nee Milton died in Blackpool in 1945. Her death registration is indexed under all three surnames.

    I am unable to find Ann, nor any of her children, in the 1939 Register. I can't find John Wilkinson either, but that is probably because there are so very many people with that name and I have no idea of his birth date.

    I have looked for them at the address given in 1931, but they are not there.

    I haven't so far ordered her death cert, nor the birth certs for any of her children, because my main interest is in her partner John Wilkinson. I expect they couldn't marry as she was unable to divorce her first husband. I was hoping that the 1939 register might give me John's birth date and occupation. Failing that, I hoped to at least confirm my understanding of her own birth date and the number of her children. I know that John could have been in the forces and the children evacuated, but nonetheless Ann must still be there, somewhere?
     
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    Forgot to say that what is very probably Ann's baptism gives her date of birth as 7th October 1898.
     
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    A School record on FMP gives her birth date of 7 October 1898 - father William.
     
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    The nearest I can find is Anne (transcribed as Annie) MALHOLLAND (which is then crossed out and CHEDDY written above) in Birmingham with a birth date of 1 Oct 1898. She is listed as a widow. No lines blanked out though, as if she has children with her.
     
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    Thanks for that, have found two records actually and they do match and also have her siblings, so I am pretty sure of her birth date now!
     
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    I've seen that one before and have looked, without success, for a Ma(u)lholland / Cheddy marriage ... there is a 'M' in the register on the LHS, which I believe refers to a marriage after the register was complied?

    No reason to expect Ann to be in Birmingham, but you never know?
     
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    I cannot find any of them in the 1939 Register either. Looking back at the Electoral Registers of Marton, there is a John WILKINSON living with an Annie WILKINSON at Stockydale from 1921-1930 inclusive, then there is the 1931 Electoral Register you found with John WILKINSON living with Anne CHEDDY at Norfolk Road. There is no mention of an Anne CHEDDY on the Electoral Registers prior to 1931 at Marton, so are Annie WILKINSON & Anne CHEDDY one and the same? Not that this helps you to solve your dilemma I'm afraid.

    Janet
     
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    I can't be sure of that? How did you find the earlier Electoral Register entries ... was it on FMP or?
     
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    Yes, they are all on FMP. Unfortunately the Electoral Registers seem to stop after 1931 and I cannot believe that the whole family of Anne CHEDDY/WILKINSON seem to disappear without trace!

    Janet
     
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    OK, thanks, have found them now. I was looking under Blackpool instead of Fylde. :oops:

    I know, I can't believe it either! :headbang: Especially as I know that they were having children in the area in the 1930s and that Ann died there in 1945.

    The electoral registers collection on FMP only goes up to 1932. A local library might possibly have later ones - I haven't checked because I know they are closed at present anyway. I might have a look to see if that's an option for later.

    The only other thing I can think of is to start shelling out for certificates (for Ann's death and the births of her children) on the off-chance they might add some useful information. Before I do that I will investigate how long it might take to browse the area in the 1939 register? Will also have a look at my book collection, to see if there's any other 20th Century sources I have thus far overlooked. :reading:

    Thank you for your help with this!

    Sue
     
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    Re electoral registers, having consulted the relevant Gibson guide and the British Library website, it appears that the British Library have the only additional surviving register of interest, for 1937-38. So far as I can see this is only available for consultation on site in London, so even without the lock-down, during which the site is currently closed, this would have to go on my 'list of things to do in London'. At least it hasn't missed my usual annual trip to London, which would have been this month if it hadn't been cancelled! Anyway, there's a certificate I could order that would provide an address around the same time, and be somewhat cheaper than a trip to London ...
     
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    The address on one of the children's birth certificates might prove useful to see if it ties in with the Electoral Register addresses, mightn't it and hopefully Ann's Death Certificate might also give you some useful information. Let us know how you get on won't you - I am intrigued to know where all the children are hiding.

    Janet
     
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    OK, I've begun by ordering Ann's death certificate. Due in about 3 weeks, although the last one I ordered from the same place was a bit quicker (fingers crossed).
     
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    My fingers crossed too!

    Janet
     
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    The plot thickens.

    Ann's death certificate confirms that she was 'Ann Wilkinson otherwise Cheddy formerly Milton' and that she was still the 'wife of George Cheddy' but that the address she died at was also the home of John Wilkinson, the informant. That is all as expected.

    The address they were at then (in 1945) cannot be seen in the 1939 Register because it, and several adjacent addresses, are all redacted. I have used various maps - from the 1940s and now - and various search options on both FMP and Ancestry to come to this conclusion. I am at a loss to explain this? If it was an institution, such as a hospital or school, then I would expect to see many of the people's details redacted, but I would also expect to be able to see details of many of the adults - hospital staff, teachers, or whatever - that lived there. There are just pages of redacted details with no other clues. Has anyone seen anything like this before, or do you know of a possible explanation?

    I don't know for sure if Ann and John were at that address in 1939, but if they were then it would explain why they cannot be found?

    I could pay for the birth cert for a child born in 1937 ... but not sure if that will help? It might confirm the address, or not?

    I could contact FMP and give them the information I have (including evidence of Ann's death) and see if they can either open the relevant record for me or tell me that she was not at that address? I think I'd have to get John's death certificate as well to ask for his details? The snag there is that I was looking for him in 1939 partly to check if I have found the right death entry for him and mainly to discover his date of birth. Another snag is that I cannot locate the address precisely in the records because several adjacent addresses were wholly redacted, so not sure if FMP will be able to help, but it might be worth a try?

    I have searched newspapers for anything re the property without success. I've also searched for current property details but the house doesn't seem to have been advertised for sale in the recent past.

    Does anyone have any other ideas?

    Thanks,

    Sue
     
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    When you search the address have you looked to see if it comes up in Google maps? You might be able to see a street view. Just a thought.
     
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    Hi Sis, yes I started with Google maps and street view before then looking at the OS 6" to the mile map from the 1940s on the National Library of Scotland website and also the map provided by FMP when searching for 1939 addresses. The property as it is today is an unremarkable residential house in a street of very similar properties. They could be pre or post WW2 but either way look like they were all built at the same time, so I'm guessing pre WW2.

    It crossed my mind that perhaps they were post WW2 replacements for whatever was there before, but I've no reason to think that other than the strange 1939 Register entries. The house style is familiar to me because some of my close family lived in one that was built in the 1930s and I used to live in one that was built in 1960 ... all in different parts of England but I think this style was fairly consistent for at least 40 years!
     
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    I have now checked the 1930-1931 map and the street had not been built then, but it is on the 1938 map (published in 1945) so almost certainly the houses were built between those dates?
     
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    Have you tried the 1939 register on Ancestry?
     
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    I would certainly ask FMP to explain why there is the total redaction on that, and the other addresses, they are pretty good at replying quickly too (well they used to be).
     
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