Ann Keech and her daughter

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    mugwortismy cat Tenacious to the End!

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    When Ann Sprake and David Keech got married in Beaminster, Dorset they named their first daughter Ann, she was baptised 21 Jan 1844

    In 1851 and 1861 she is with her parents in Beaminster [HO107: 1860: 455: 19 and RG 9: 1365: 54: 7]

    In 1871 she is in Southampton, claiming to be a wife (no husband present) and still surnamed Keech*, and with a 4 month old daughter (Mary E), plus her sister Eliza [RG10: 1193: 61: 39]

    In 1881 she is a "widow" with her daughter [RG11: 1210: 127: 28]

    In 1891 her daughter is in Beaminster with her grandparents and called Minnie ... [RG12: 1662: 38: 5]


    My problems:
    (1) is there a birth registration for Mary/Minnie 'cos I can't find it
    (2) what happened to Ann after 1881?
    (3) what happened to Mary/Minnie after 1891?

    * I have looked for a Keech-Keech marriage just in case and found nothing ...
     
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    (3) Could she be the Mary Eliza Keech who married William John Froome 28/10/1895 - no father's name entered on the m/c which is on Anc.

    St Mary's Beaminster
     
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    Details fit (place of birth/year etc) with the 1901 census as well. :)
    RG13, Piece 1062, folio 101, page 23
     
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    Thank you both :D

    Don't know how I missed that one :rolleyes:, fits the 1911 too ;)

    edit: Gosh Jan, I am glad you found the 1901, on Ancestry the surname is FLORINE!?
     
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    (2) RG12/913/139/Page38 St Mary's Southampton
    Ann Keach lodging with James Eggar, a Hawker. She is described as a Dressmaker, born Dorset.

    Ann
     
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    Thank you Ann :)
     
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    But then she disappears into your Bermuda Triangle.....can't find her in 1901, but can't find a suitable death.

    I thought I had found her in Southampton in 1901 (RG13/1057/135/27) married to an 87 year old retired upholsterer named Israel Humphrey :)confused:), but looking at FreeBMD, it would appear that he married an Ann Harley - although it was in 1894 - don't suppose she could have been going by another name? (sorry, clutching at straws, I hate the way these people keep falling off the radar :mad:)

    Ann
     
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    (1) As we now know her names were Mary Eliza I have looked at births in Southampton last qtr 1870 and first 2 in 1871 and there is only one
    Mary Eliza Woollett March qtr 1871 2c2

    I cannot find a Mary Woollett born c1871 Southampton on the 1881 census
     
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    In which case I have two -- one in Deptford/Greenwich/Woolwich, which is at least quite localised, and one encompassing a huge chunk of the West Country :D

    Interesting :confused: I can't find a marriage or death for a Mary E Woollett either ... so ... birth certificate, anyone?
     
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    Mealymoo A Busy Lizzy

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    And the date and first names are spot on MollyMay. The little one was aged four months in 1871, census taken 2nd Apr, giving an approx birth of beginning of Dec 1870, and a probable registration Jan - Mar qrt 1871.
     
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    I just did it :eek:, ordered without the GRO reference so I could specify Ann Keech as the mother ... though I am pretty sure it must be right :D
     
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    I'd go for it, Mugwort, as I do think it seems very promising and I can't find any Woolletts in Southampton; Ann was economical with the truth on census returns - so why not with the birth registration. She must have felt embarrassed with her situation, hence why she claimed to be married in 1871 and a widow in 1881, poor lass.
     
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    I do hope so or I will be very:oops:
     
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    Talk about living dangerously.........:eek: :D

    Ann
     
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    Marriages Jun 1894, Poole 5a 551
    William Clapcott also indexed Ann Keech.

    1901, St James, Poole, Dorset : RG13; Piece: 1980; Folio: 20; Page: 31
    Ann Clappcott 56, widow, Beaminster
    Edward Keetch 17, Southampton


    1891 posted by Ann #5, Ann Keach [sic] has a son Edward aged 7.
     
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    Deaths Mar 1895
    Clapcott William age 64, Poole 5a 221
     
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    1911, 82 Lagland Street, Poole, Dorset
    Edward William Keech 27, Southampton
    Ethel Maud Keech 30
    Edwin Stanley Keech 4
    Nellie Viola Keech 11/12
    RG14; Piece: 12279; Schedule Number: 30
     
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    When Edward married Ethel Maud Sheppard at Parkstone St Peter, Dorset, Dec 26, 1905, he named his father as Edward Futcher Keech, deceased, a clerk!!
    Courtesy of Ancestry.
     
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    Courtesy of Ancestry
    Ann Clapcott born, abt 1844
    Age: 61
    Buried 12 Aug 1905
    Poole, St Paul, Dorset, England
     
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    There's a possible schools admission record for Edward on FMP, 1892.
     

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