Barks' Buildings, Clayton 1841

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  1. kernowmaid

    kernowmaid Well-Known Member

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    I'd be grateful if anyone could tell me something about BARKS' BUILDINGS, Clayton, Manchester.
    This is how it is written on the 1841 Census (Piece 581, Folio 7, Book 6, Page 7)
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    It is where my gt gt grandparents were living - my cousin thinks it's short for Barker's Buildings ... but I can't find reference to that, either!

    Thanks in advance
    Jane
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    I found a reference to Barques Buildings, Lad Lane, Old Hall Street, Liverpool.
     
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    The street indexes that the National Archives used to have give it as Barks Buildings:
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    http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20121229025723/http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Place:Ashton_Under_Lyne_Registration_District%2C_1841_Census_Street_Index_A-B
    I can't work out where it was, though. The description for that area from the original book has "...commencing at Mr Garrick's on the North Road at the Green's Arms on Manchester Turnpike road extending to Bank Bridge and terminating at Clayton Gardens" - and that seems to be quite a big area.

    North Road and Bank Bridge are on modern maps (linked more or less by Bank Street), and the turnpike road is probably Ashton New Road. Clayton Gardens is an area on the opposite side of the turnpike road to Bank Bridge, in the middle of this map:
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    https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=53.4793&lon=-2.1710&layers=6&right=BingHyb
    So somewhere between Bank Bridge and Clayton Gardens - but where?
     
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    Thanks for the map, Arthur - The side-by-side contrast is fascinating!
    It's a shame that Barks Bldgs isn't shown, but at least I now know the area.
    (I love looking at maps, but just can't fathom how to operate that website!)

    Jane
     
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    There seem to be a number of ways to use the site, but for England and Wales I usually start at
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    https://maps.nls.uk/os/6inch-england-and-wales/index.html
    and click the top link for Individual Sheets etc.

    Then I type a placename in the box on the left. When the map stops zooming I pick a map series (the sheet edges on the reference map will change), then select which sheet I need. The right hand column then shows what's available, sorted by year, and I middle-click as required to send them into a new tab.

    When I remember, I click the Side-by-side link at the top to get a map like I gave above. For the first time I've also just tried the georeferenced/overlay option, where you can see an old map as a layer above a new one, with a slider to change the transparency - that's fun!

    With these last two options, I don't think you get the full range of old maps that's available in individual sheet mode. However, on any of the modern maps you can select from a range of road maps, satellite view etc.

    You can use the same method for Scottish Ordnance Survey maps (even though it's a page for England, you can put Scottish places in the placename box), but they have a lot more non-OS ones that you can find from the home page.
     
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