Bellem/Bellam and Truan

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  1. Jellylegs

    Jellylegs Well-Known Member

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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    I never could work out the reference either, but have finally got it I think.

    On FMP the Ref. is RG14PN13755 RG78PN814 RD295 SD2 ED2 SN88

    When quoting the Ref. just quote the 'PN' in this case 13755

    Go into their census collection and from the 'A - Z of Record Sets' select 1911 census

    Enter BEWES in the 'last Name'

    Then go to 'Piece number' and enter 13755

    RG14PN13755 RG78PN814 RD295 SD2 ED2 SN88

    Then search, this will bring up all the BEWES' on that page.

    i.e.
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    I think that I shall order a marriage certificate of the Truan Buse (all surnames) but will they still be working now?
    I think that you are correct with the censuses you hae found Jellylegs. One fact is that at the start Elizabeth has stated that she was born in Gerrans and that is so. The children with her continue through the following censuses.
    Cornwallopc has a 16 April 1869 burial of Mary Elizabeth Buse -father William. She was 10 weeks old when she died. It came from the Royal Cornwall Gazette.
    1930 and 1931 electoral rolls (FMP)Elizabeth Ann Bewes and Alice Maud Bewes are living at 24 Duke Street,
     
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    There's nothing on their website to say that they aren't - the only thing on there is about the Royal Mail not being able to guarantee items being delivered on time by their Special Delivery by 1pm service.

    I am sure marriage certificates have to come through the post - you can only try.
     
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    Just posted here. ;)
     
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    Albert Bewes death born 1872 died 1933 Bodmin district.
    Alice Maud Bewes born 1881 died 1957 Kerrier District.
    Elizabeth Ann Bewes 1875 died 1943.
    Can't find wills though. Drat.
     
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    I may as well waste £11 to see if she is the one. I hope that she knows who her father is after being with a different family from the age of 5.
     
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    It will be interesting to see who the witnesses were.
     
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    Ordered the certificate.
    Familysearch has the Parish records and I have found Alice baptism. Not Alice M.They are living at Duke Street and he is a shoemaker as in the census.
    Duke Street is where the family are living later on.
    Shoemaker when son Edmund Buse is baptised
     
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    I have been looking for William Buse in 1861 and found wikitree has John Evans age 44 in the 1861 census had a visitor William Buse age 23 a shoemaker living with the family at Rock Bedwellty, Monmouthshire.
    I can't find them in the census and wonder if there is the actual part of Devon William Buse came from and if he is the chap that married Elizabeth Ann Truan seeing the occupation is the same.
    William is born in Westleigh in one census and Bideford in another.
     
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    FMP has him transcribed as Burr


    1861 - RG09, Piece number 4002, Folio 5, Page 12

    10, Mannest Row, Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Wales

    William Burr, Head, Unmarried, Male, 32, 1829, Shoemaker, West Leigh, Devon, England

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    That ties in with William in Cornwall in the 1871 census born Westleigh.His age is all over the place.
     
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    I see my mistke.
    The wikitree has William's age as 23 and you have him 32.Thirty two is is what is age is more or less in 1871 and 1881 census.
    Now to find him in 1851.
     
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    1851 - HO107 Piece 2457 Folio 238 Page 2 - Glamorganshire
    23 year old shoemaker born Devonshire

    It is in this census (1851) that he is in the same household as John Evans, so maybe whoever did the wikitree got in a muddle with the census.

    Possible in 1841 - HO107 Piece 221 Book 13 Folio 7 Page 8 - Westleigh Village, Devon
    aged 13 together with:-
    George BUSE 45
    Mary BUSE 40
    George BUSE 15
    Henry BUSE 9
    Elizabeth MANLY 3
    All born Devon
     
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    Ten years in Wales and then in Cornwall for the rest of his life. At least he is the right chap having Westleigh as a place of birth in one of the Cornwall censuses.
    If I find that she is the daughter of Peter and therefore half to my branch,do I look into the Whetter family tree.
     
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    I have put this post here to remind me what the question was because I forgot where Elizabeth was in the tree.:rolleyes:
    The marriage certificate I received today has Elizabeth Truan age 31 marrying William Buse August 1868 at St Austell and her father is Peter So the person who put Isaac Bellam in the tree was incorrect. The surname on the certificate was a mess as usual so nothing new there.
    It was worth the wait and £11.
     
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    Witnesses were what look like ? Blake and I think Susan Clemo.
    Register Office marriage.
     
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