Birth of Somerville Morrison somewhere around 1852

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  1. Murfomurf

    Murfomurf Well-Known Member

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    I have this person with parents John Morrison and Janet Whiteford/Whitford in the Scotland Census 1861 and 1871, and the England Census in 1901 and 1911. Scotland's People has not yielded anyone with the right name. He married an Elizabeth Evans:
    FreeBMD Jun 1891 Manchester, Lancashire, England; V8d p358; Morrison-Evans

    In the England Censuses two children are present Clara Evans (b. 1887) and Thomas Evans (b. 1888/9), described as Somerville's step-children. I don't know where they came from.

    Other family members claim that Someville had an earlier marriage to Elizabeth Butter, but I can't find that either. The only Somerville Morrisons I have come across are one in Australia on the Electoral Roll in 1905 (not likely) and another who is a Reverend in St John, New Brunswick (William Somerville Morrison).

    My search for military births overseas has not yielded any Somervilles but there are quite a few other Morrisons born Ireland and India. HELP PLEASE.
     
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    Well, I have had a good old rummage round Lanarkshire and cannot find a baptism for him in the Church of Scotland or Catholic registers. There will be no birth certificate as such, as civil registration did not start in Scotland until 1st January 1855.

    Maybe he wasn't baptised.... :(
     
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    I've had a rummage around too (including the papers) and have found nothing :(
     
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    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    If you look at the 1891 census for Elizabeth Evans RG12/3241/75/4 (Manchester) she is a widow with the 2 children and also present is her brother Edward Butter, FMP transcription, but the original looks more like ButLer.

    There is a marriage of Elizabeth Butler to Jonathan Evans Dec qtr 1884 Manchester 8d 396
    Jonathan Evans age 34 died in 1890 June qtr Manchester 8d 205

    Thomas's birth reg gives a mmn of Butler but Clara's as Buckley:confused:

    So it looks like Elizabeth Evans/Butter/Butler are all one and the same:)
     
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    On the Lancashire BMD site if a person has been married previously they usually '*' the marriage and enter it twice using both Nee and former name.

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    Somerville Morrison
    Age 24
    Pension Place, United Kingdom
    Birth Year 1853
    Birthplace Lanarkshire
    Doc Type A
    Box Number 3508
    Series Name Wo97
    Source Ref 9753508147
    Affiliate Image 973508147

    United Kingdom Chelsea Pensioner Service Records, Family Search
    Does this help?
     
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    FMP has his military record 1877 - 1889
    He was in Gibraltar in 1881, which is why we cannot find him on the census.

    Well found AM:)
     
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    The closest match I could find was S Morrison Private 865 1879 21st Foot/Royal Scots Fusiliers.
     
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    I had a look at SP . They have the marriage of John and Janet in Lanark 1838 but as far as I can see no baptisms for any of their children.
    Janet Morrison, other surname Whiteford died in 1887 in Lanark so you will have a record for that which may give her parents names, assuming the informant knew them.

    Daughter Eliza died 1860 and Margaret 1875 I think.

    It is interesting that the family lived and worked at New Lanark, now a World Heritage Site. Lots of information online if you Google it and worth visiting.

    FMP have a dataset People of New Lanark and although Somerville is not mentioned it is possible that other members of the family are. Sorry I can't check. For example there are 3 records for Janet Whiteford 1830 and 1838 and many Morrison records.
     
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    There are a couple of possible deaths for John in 1873 and 1878 but the more likely one is John Morrison age 72, 1878 Lanark. Mother's maiden name Somerville. As with Janet this record with luck should show his parents' names.
     
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    I can't see a baptism for John Morrison but there are baptisms in Lanark between 1803 and 1813 for Catherine, Robina and Mary Morrison, parents William Morrison and Isobel Somerville.
     
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    That's great! At least you have reduced the field of unknowns! I will get the Evans/Butter details into the tree and see if something else pops out.
     
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    I also found that overnight- the serial numbers might lead to a military record I could search for.
     
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    Good old FMP- I don't have access to that, although I did find him in a list there- behind the paywall of minimum 3 months subscription!
     
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    I had no idea New Lanark had any significance! Will follow that lead too. I tried for marriages and baptisms of the other Morrisons and found the same. Traced the family back to a Morrison-Somerville marriage so found the origin of Somerville as a name in the family.
     
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    Quite likely him as the later military record for 1914-1920 gives him as a Lance Corporal, formerly a Private.
     
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