Blue or khaki in WW2 ?

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    Philb-c Well-Known Member

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    A bit of a puzzle between blue (RAF) and khaki (army).

    Donald Sydney Davis GREEN is still in the services in Germany in 1946 and is a clerk administrating demobilisation whilst also anticipating his own within a couple of months (letters home).

    Writing to his parents on 11 Aug 1946 he says "we have been dished out the blue again for our best dress. At the moment we have no blue shirts or collars - typical RAF organisation - so we are holding on to our khaki until some shirts turn up. It will seem quite strange wearing blue again after all this time ..... I am not looking forward to polishing all the buttons again - that's the big blessing of khaki".

    There is one photo of a man in army uniform signed "Don" on the back (the signature matches all his letters home) .... but what's all this about the blue shirts ? Was he army or RAF ?
     
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    Apparently there was a RAF khaki uniform in WWII

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    http://www.wadhamsfamilyhistory.co.uk/FortiesRAFkhakidrill.htm 
     
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    That's a good one Doug and I see the logic but I see it was for hotter climes and our man was in Germany.

    However, there is also a reference to "sewing on flashes ????? and props" (see attached) which also infers RAF. Any suggestions as to the word ?

    Then, of course, we have the signed photo in an army uniform !

    He has written several times home enclosing negatives for processing in the UK and the box contains dozens. I have had considerable success scanning microfiche so with a bit of luck, there should be some more clues (unfortunately, it's very time consuming).
     

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    Does this help or confuse?
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    http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32735
     
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    I think it all confuses at the moment.

    Another letter from Donald asks if his parents could send a £2 money order and “ask at the post office how one sends a money order to the BAOR” (British Army of the Rhine). So another reference to army :headbang:
     
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    I'm wondering if Props means Propellers, I seem to recall RAF personnel with a two bladed propeller sown on to their uniform.

    In the army flashes refers to the garrison insignia sown onto the top of the Battledress top immediately under the name of the regiment or Corps, in Gibraltar with the REME my flashes were crossed keys on a red background.
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Albatri, albatross ?
    Some controversy as to wether it was an albatross or an eagle. Remembering that the eagle was the insignia of the Germans. It was apparently reworked to look more like an albatross but later after the war, an eagle.
    Not sure if that’s what you are after re the stitching of the patches. But I did learn something in my attempt :)
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Lots of knives out on certain forums re eagle or albatross.
    With the uniform colour, perhaps he was transferred to Germany from a hotter climate and uniforms weren’t yet ready.
     
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    May we see the photo of your man in "Army uniform"?
    You've got me thinking ...

    My Dad was in the RAF (rear-gunner, but the only plane he shot down was his own ... he got the comms wire connecting front & back :eek:)

    Admittedly he was in Rhodesia, Aden & Ceylon - but they're not always hot! Last posting was at the POW camps for Japanese prisoners in Singapore (I think).
    Every photo shows him in khaki, and I can't see any insignia or badges apart from his Sargeant's stripes. The only photos in RAF blue are taken at home.

    Perhaps the blue was for Dress, practical khaki for work? Even in Germany??

    Here's some examples - you can laugh at his skinny legs - we always did! :D

    Jane
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    I have found two DS Green in the RAF
    DS Green, 19136 Wing Commander 1945
    DS Green, War Substantive Flying Officer, General Duties Branch 1945 which sounds a bit like it could be your Donald.
     
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    Mr. Google says the BAOR HQ was both Army and RAF. :)
     
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    Here is our man, looks like he is outside the main gate. A possible clue with the man leaning against the pole ?

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    Finally got to the bottom of it !

    The Royal Air Force Regiment is part of the Royal Air Force and functions as a specialist airfield defence corps founded by Royal Warrant in 1942.

    Army khaki with air force badges and cap (although our man in #13 has what looks like an army beret) !
     

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