Bowater - Kings Cliffe

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  1. Eve

    Eve Well-Known Member

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    I would like the help of the super sleuths please. I am trying to fill in some gaps for the Bowater family of Kings Cliffe, Northamptonshire. Firstly, I am trying to pin down the origins of a William Bowater who married Susannah Rayson in Bulwick, Northants in 1801.
    I have sightings for who I think is MY William in Northants, Scotland, and Wales !!
    My major uncertainty is that William is noted on various Birth Certificates, marriage records etc as an Excise Officer. But later along the line becomes a travelling showman! and dies falling off his horse in Bonar Bridge, Scotland ! I was dubious that this was the same William, but there are a few compelling links – one of which is a son Hozias (Osias) Bowater (baptised 1815 Caerphilly) of which I have only ever found the one candidate. He later resided in London and St Albans and dying in Kensington in I860. So secondly I wonder if the Top Dogs can find any other Hozias Bowaters.

    Many thanks
    Lesley
     
  2. Chimp

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    OZIAS RAYSON BOWATER
    Baptism Date 09 Jul 1815 St Ilan, Eglwysilan, Glamorganshire
    Father WILLIAM, Mother SUSANNAH
    Abode CAERPHILLY
    Father Occupation SHOWMAN
    Notes 2D <-(does this mean 2 days old therefore born on the 7th) ?

    Familysearch has the church of Saint Martin, Eglwysilan, Glamorganshir. In 1801, the parish had dependent chapels at Llanfabon and St Martin.
     
  3. MollyMay

    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    FMP has the original Baptism record and it does say 2 days old.

    I cannot find anyone else with this name.
     
  4. Eve

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    Thanks for the info Chimp - I had Caerphilly, but not all the detail.
    Now, circa 1801 when William & Susannah married and my 3XGtGrandfather John was born, in Northamptonshire. William was recorded as an Excise Officer and also later, on some of his childrens marriage certificates - and then. in 1815 he pops up as a Showman - bit of a change of career! He obviously travelled widely as Hozias was born in Wales and William obviously enjoyed the new life as he was still travelling with his caravan in Scotland when he met his death in 1835. His widow was living in St Albans by 1841 but not sure whether she was also in Scotland at all.
    And thanks for looking Molly May - hopefully this means that he is indeed a one off !So that would link in all my William sightings so far.
     
  5. janetbooth

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    Maybe to confirm what you already know, Eve, but from Northamptonshire Marriage Index 1700-1837:

    24 March 1801 at Bulwick, by licence William BOWATER of the parish & Susanna RAYSON of Kings Cliffe

    From Northamptonshire Baptismal Index 1701-1812:

    11 April 1801 at Bulwick John BOWATER son of William & Susanna
    4 August 1807 at Kings Cliffe Byzantha BOWATER daughter of William & Susanna
    18 October 1808 at Kings Cliffe William BOWATER son of William & Susanna
    27 December 1810 at Kings Cliffe Jane BOWATER daughter of William & Susanna

    What an intriguing name, Byzantha - hopefully relatively easy to trace her!

    Janet
     
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    Hi Janet
    Yes these are mine.
    Yes Byzantha is a very unusual name but plenty of room for spelling variations.
    Her marriage entry in 1844 reads Biszancher
    And I have her on 1871 census, which Ancestry as indexed as Bygantha !
    I haven't found her in 1861 or 1841

    Interestingly the 1844 marriage entry still gives father William as
    Officer of Excise - creative writing? maybe travelling Showman doesn't suit her new London life?
     
  7. Huncamunca

    Huncamunca The Knowledgeable One

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    If William Bowater really was an excise man then there may be records at The National Archives. See their guide to 'Looking for records of an Excise or Inland Revenue officer' here.

    Most of these records aren't indexed by name in TNA's online catalogue (except the ones in CUST 116), nor do any of them appear to be available in their 'Digital microfilm' collection. So you'd need to spend some time at Kew browsing through some of the records.
     
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  8. Eve

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    Thanks Huncamunca, looks like a visit to Kew is on the cards !
     
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    Could this be Robert & Byzantha in the 1861 census of Hornsey (RG9/791, folio 19, page 30):

    Park Road

    Robert ANQUITEL Head Mar 44 Labr Middlesex
    Mary do Wife Mar 46 do wife Northamptonshire
    Ann do Mother W 90 Derbyshire
    Frances do Daur 14 Middlesex
    Mary WHITE Border 7 Border do

    Ancestry have transcribed the surname as AUGUSTEL and I know the his wife is not Byzantha (the Enumerator had probably never heard of such a name) but all other details seem to be correct. The 1841 census for Robert shows him living with parents John & Ann ANQUETIL at Muswell Hill in Hornsey.

    Janet
     
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    I may have misunderstood your question, so that rules me out completely - a "super sleuth. But, since I'm here, allow me to put my two cents worth in. I also went on familysearch, and got a different response to the surname Bowaters. Each and every time I put the Bowaters surname into the computer, I got many different surnames, apparently names given to peoples coming into the United States as immigrants, changing their Bowaters surname to something entirely different.

    For instance, from England I got 186 different names other than Bowaters.
    From Scotland, I got a total of 3,397 different names other than Bowaters.

    Or is this one of those "Garbage in, garbage out". Stumped!
     
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    Interesting, Chimp. That would maybe explain why he is shown as a Labourer in the 1861 census - if I have found the correct family that is.

    Janet
     
  14. Eve

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    Gosh you've all been busy!
    I agree Jan that is almost certainly them in 1861 thank you. Esp as you have found mother Ann with Robert in 1841 as well.
    I haven't followed The Anquetil family much although I think it is a Channel Islands name.
    So there's my homework for the week !
    Thanks too Chimp - good find xx
     
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    AnnB Editor in Chief who is Hot off the Press!

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    ......and John (aged 70) has 'F' in the 'where born' column - so, from foreign parts :)

    Ann
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Cherry Six, I wonder what the F Search site picked up from your entry, by keyingin Bowater- England or Bowater- Scotland I found only those names in varying counties.
    Nice to see you here having a go.
     
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    Hi Lesley
    If you Google Kings Cliffe Heritage it will take you to the Kings Cliffe Village Forum where it may be worth while doing a post.
    Good Luck
    Jenny
     
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  18. Eve

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    Thanks for that Jenny, I will take a look
     
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    Thanks, I try to assist when I can. Unfortunately in this case, it didn't happen. I do believe I was on familysearch.org, but don't hold that as truth. My brain "ain't" what it use to be.
     
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    Thanks for trying Cherry Six
     

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