Can I ask for a burial look up?

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    Too late to edit - could a correction be made to the reference? - s/b EL/17/11
     
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    Done. ;)
     
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    Great stuff! It just goes to show what genealogical treasures are waiting to be found by intrepid genealogists who venture beyond parish registers.
     
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    Yes I was getting a little desperate - and now I have another desperation query -
    a marriage Dec 1688 taken from BT's in Gorran between an Edward GOLLY and a Florence who I think may be a mis-trancription of Frances. How do I make sure [1] and find her surname [2]?
     
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    It would appear that some time prior to 10 December 1718 - Margaret Golly nee Vercoe - became a widow.

    A new lease was drawn up - EL/18/22 - 10 December 1718 on Consideration of a payment of 5pounds - Rent and Heriot unchanged. 99 years or the lives of Margaret, her daughter also named Margaret and Edward Golly senior - brother of her husband John's father .
     
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    The only way to be sure what it says is to get sight of the original register and/or Bishop's transcript. If they're not online and haven't been filmed by the LDS then you'd need to get a copy from the county archives.

    Hopefully Edward's wife's surname will be given in the marriage entry but I cannot guarantee it: I have seen parish registers which just say something like 'John Smith and his wife were married'. :(
     
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    My 'gut feeling' is that I'm not going to get the answer.

    Cornwall OPC has only one marriage for a Golly in Gorran in 1668 and that is for John and Duens/Duance Collicote 23 February 1668 - Phillmore's.

    As for the transcript for Edward and Frances - here is what I got from my contact:
    Parish Records Collection
    Groom's Forenames - Edward
    Groom's Surname - Golly
    Date - ?? Dec. 1668
    Bride's Forenames - Florence
    Bride's Surname - ?
    Parish - Gorran
    County - Cornwall
    Remarks - BT only

    My contact thinks [as do I] that forename is a mis-transcription as all baptisms indicate mother as FRANCES. To support this she is named as Frances in the lease of 2 June 1680 - EL/17/18

    We are also advised that all that have been transcribed so far and the only original documents available are
    Phillmore's 1668-1812
    BT's 1750-1773
     
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    Huncamunca The Knowledgeable One

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    According to the GENUKI page for Gorran, the Cornwall Record Office holds 'Baptisms 1661 - 1989, Burials 1661 - 1989, Marriages 1688 - 1975, Boyd's Marriage Index 1607 - 1812, BTs 1607 - 1673.'

    http://www.
    genuki.org.uk/big/eng/Cornwall/Gorran/

    I have looked (not very hard, but unsuccessfully) for a list of parish register holdings on the CRO website. Perhaps you will have more luck . . . if not, then I would suggest e-mailing the record office to check what original registers they have for Gorran.
     
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    Oh dear, sorry I only just noticed that the marriages start too late for you. :( But I would still advise getting a copy of the entry from the Bishop's transcript so you can decide for yourself what Edward's wife's name is.
     
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    Don't fret, Jane - it's only an 8x Gt.-grand uncle and his spouse.

    With all my questions to the CRO lately, they'll probably suggest that I hire a dedicated researcher. :D
     
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    Good heavens Colin. The way you're forging ahead (back) you will soon be finding the marriage of Noah and wife:)
     
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    Well - I've guilty of jumping to conclusions in the past - so now now I have names and relationships which are beyond the scope of parish registers.

    Sadly, though, I am almost sure that someone, somewhere [and not on Top Dog] will burst my balloon and I'll have nothing of a family tree - but at least the dream is still alive!!
     
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    James Golly and Jane Harris[s?] were married 4 Nov 1701 and during their marriage they baptised 2 daughters named Jane.

    Jane - #1 - was baptised on 26 December 1705 in Gorran.

    Jane - #2 - was baptised on 9 April 1711 in Gorran. She never married and was buried in Mevagissey on 14 August 1795.

    Jane #1 obviously died and about a dozen trees on Ancestry [and probably more on other site] have her dying around the time of the birth of Jane #2. Those folks haven't found a burial for her.

    Neither can I - hence my request.

    Thanks
     
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    The question in post #33 was started on a new thread. However, as it was asked originally back in June, I have moved it from the new thread to the end of the original one. That way, members will be able to see what action has already been undertaken. :)
     

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