Can't Read Last Word

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  1. dizzyme

    dizzyme Well-Known Member

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    On the marriage record for Elizabeth Longworth on 05 Mar 1810, I can't read the last word after spinster. Greatful for any ideas :)

    Elizabeth Longworth.JPG
     
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    Sorry, I can't read it either :( The certificate is on Ancestry, but hasn't been signed by either bride or groom or any witnesses - but others on that page are the same. I was trying to see if I could find any others on the page of certificates in the list.

    The only thing I did notice, was Elizabeth and William are entered twice for 5 March - I wonder if that has anything to do with it.

    It does look like not something but I can't work out what it may be.
     
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    Thanks Jellylegs, Will have a look for the certificate!
     
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  4. MollyMay

    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    I cannot read the word, but the entry is also recorded second from the bottom of the previous page, so could it be something that means duplicate entry?
     
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    Any chance you could post the link to the original record, as I'm having trouble finding it. The ones I've seen on Ancestry don't seem to have that extra word

    EDIT - found it, I was only looking at the one on the left page
     
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    GrannyBarb Custodian of the Family Accounts

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    not of this parish? or abbreviation of same? That's what popped into my alleged brain, anyway. without looking at other records.
     
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    Bay Horse Can be a bit of a dark horse

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    That's what I thought.
     
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    The word is only on the second / duplicate entry within the Bishop's Transcript, and most of the others with extra notes are for things like whether it was by licence and/or the name of the minister.

    This extra word doesn't appear on the PR entry, and although I still can't work out what its meant to say I tend to agree that its most likely connected to the fact that its a duplicate BT entry. I am puzzled by the lack of signatures on the PR though.
     
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    The groom William Kilner was born in Skelmanthorpe, Yorkshire and Elizabeth may have been born in Bolton-le-Moors, Lancashire.

    Thank you all for your thoughts & suggestions.
     
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    Please disregard the above post!!! Didn't think I had posted it :rolleyes::eek:

    Thank you all for your thoughts & suggestions!

    The groom, William Kilner was born in Skelmanthorpe, Yorkshire. Elizabeth was born in Lancashire, but they are several Elizabeth Longworth's being baptised! Elizabeth's burial record in Jan 1851, Wakefield ref WDP45/1/4/4, gives her age as 66yrs making a birth year of abt 1785. But, 1841 census, they are now living in Wakefield, Yorkshire, (HO107/1272/7/14/6/5/12) gives her age as 50yrs (will have been rounded up or down) so year of birth abt 1791.

    They named their eldest son John b.1811, who could be named after her father?
     
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    Where a naming pattern is followed its usually second son and first daughter named after the bride's parents, with first son & second daughter named after the groom's parents.
     
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    Following on from the post from @Andromeda take a peek here ;)
     
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    This couple have named the second son after the groom's father so sadly, not following tradition.
     
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    Thank you Andromeda and Jan for that info, somehow I had it wrong, I thought it was first son and daughter named the groom's parents and second son and daughter after the bride' parents.

    I have several examples of where I have several sets of possible parents for an ancestor but the naming patterns, as I knew them, don't help, guess I'll be doing a recap.
     
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    The last 3 letters look like G H T.
     
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