Catherine Giles born c1871

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  1. Louise

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    This is in answer to a query made by Joe - Member 801 I think:)

    In the 1881 census there is a Catherine living with grandparents William and Mary Jenkin in Lower Llansamlet. Catherine's brother and sister are William R Price and Mary Ann Price. There is no mention of the mother of Catherine.
    Apologies if I am stating facts that you already know:(
     
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    Thank you Louise, no apologies needed. I have all the census' on Ancestry but I suspect the truth will be much closer to the ground than official records. Perhaps someone in the Llansamlet/Neath area - even connected with the family - might just 'know something', hopefully. Joe
     
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    Just in case people stumble across this thread and have not read Joe's introduction, his query is as follows:
    I am stuck relatively early at Catherine Giles born 1871 at Llansamlet, Glamorgan because she seems to have been illegitimate. There are indications that a Mr Price may have been her father, and speculation that her mother may been Jane Giles b.1851
    in Llansamlet or perhaps Neath. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.


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    Do you have Catherine's birth certificate at all? A copy would be available from the GRO and may be ordered online for £9.25. The reference is:
    Catherine GILES, September quarter 1871, Neath registration district, volume 11a, page 547

    This would confirm the mother's name.:)
     
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    Hi Joe

    1881 census has
    William Jenkins age 34 head
    Mary Jenkins age 56 wife
    Benjamin Leysham age 50 Brother in law
    Robert Giles age 23 Stepson
    Catherine Giles age 10 wifes granddaughter
    William Price age 6 wifes grandson
    Mary Price wifes granddaughter age 5

    could be a possible line of enquiry
     
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    Did she marry a John Hopkin Bevan?
     
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    Thank you - yes she did. Joe
    PS: I cannot find marriages in Wales Indexes. Where can I look please?
     
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    Yes and those enquiries are pretty successful. Thank you. Joe
     
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    Catherines marriage is in FMP and in FreeBMD
    they married in 1894 in the 4th qtr at Swansea in Glamorganshire
    Vol 11a page 1149.
     
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    Thanks Sandiep, I have her marriage and am satisfied that she was a daughter of one of Mary Giles nee Leyshon's three daughters. I have ordered her Birth Certificate but do not hope to see her father's name!
    PS: Where is Ceredigion please? Is is it one of the 'new' Wales counties? Joe
     
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    According to Wikipedia:
    The county was created as Cardiganshire in 1282 in the area of the former Kingdom of Ceredigion. The historic county was abolished in 1974 and reconstituted in 1996 as Ceredigion, with largely identical boundaries.
     
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    I am most grateful - well done, and thank you. Joe
     
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