Convict Tom

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  1. Bay Horse

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    Thomas Throp (b. 1786) was sentenced to 'life' at York Assizes in 1826 - for burglary. From there he was transferred to the hulk 'Retribution' on the Thames, before heading out in September on a one-way cruise to Oz on board the 'Albion'. He arrived in NSW on 14th Feb 1827.

    1828 NSW census showed him working for William Parsons at South Creek (Thomas Thorpe). South Creek would also appear to be a cattle-holding pound around this time (Trove search). That is all I am able to dig up on Thomas, using currently limited resources. What happened to him? Did he obtain his ticket of leave and settle in Australia? Did he marry?

    Also known as Thomas Thorp.
     
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  3. Archie's Mum

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    On the job!
    I know exactly where South Creek is. It runs into the Hawkesbury River near Windsor north west of Sydney. I've sat on the bank and painted there.:)
     
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    I am not sure if you have seen this account of when the Albion arrived but it might also add some flavour to what happened. :)

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    https://www.jenwilletts.com/convict_ship_albion_1827.htm
     
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    Sorry me no understand :)
     
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    Allowed to remain in the hired service of Mr Cox.... etc ;)
     
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    I think AM is talking about the Mr Cox mentioned at the bottom under Allowed to. :)
     
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    Mistake....it could be Edward Cox as his conditional pardon as recommended by Edward Cox in October 1840
     
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    This is fabulous, thank you.

    Sue, I did look for it - I couldn't find it. Lots of new trails to suddenly follow! :)
     
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    William Cox was a military officer, road builder and explorer who built the road over the Blue mountains but he had a son Edward a politician, so it could be him.
     
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    I hadn't Jan, thanks. Avidly reading now.
     
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    Ticket of leave granted 31 Dec. 1832 for ?? also for apprehending 3 bushwackers & two runaways.
    Allowed to remain in the district of 'Evan' dated 24 April 1833.
    There is more but my neck won't let me contort to read it.


    Ticket of leave 9 Feb. 1844
    for Thos Thorp alias John Thorp -ticket of leave torn up having read of Lau... Pardon...??
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    Dabee Station was/is near Bathurst at a place named Rylstone originally granted to Richard Fitzgerald but claimed by Edward Cox son of William Cox, road builder and explorer.
     
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    Thanks Sue... I was searching for it without any luck.
     
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    Was this Thomas Thorp also known as Thomas Thrope alias Eccles?
     
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    'Torn up having rec'd cond. pardon number something-or-other.' Very hard to read, as you say. Thanks Wendy.
     
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    District of Evan...post 13....one of the original districts of the County of Cumberland (Sydney area) NSW bounded on the South by the Bringelly District..on the east by the SOUTH CREEK to the RICHMOND ROAD then e that to the Chain of Ponds at Larra’s Farm and by the Richmond common line to Mathews Farm opposite the Gross River and on the west side by the Nepean River.
     
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    Oh jeez. :D Goodness knows, Chimp.
     
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    I only as because I can only find this one.

    First name(s) Thomas
    Last name Thorpe Or Eccles
    Age 39
    Birth year 1787
    Year 1826
    Calendar Yorkshire Spring Assizes
    Sessions month Mar
    Sessions year 1826
    Crime arrest date 30 Dec 1825
    Address Halifax, W.R.
    Place York Castle
    County Yorkshire
    Country England
     
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