Daisy Ellen Whiting

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    having purchased the birth certificate for the mysterious grandchild of Richard John aka John Whiting and Agnes Clark I find that he is the son of their eldest daughter Daisy Ellen (there were two other contenders and no obvious way to rule anyone out)

    She had her son Frederick John on 7 May 1914 in Snape, Suffolk. In 1939 he is with his grandparents, he dies in Oxfordshire in 1977, I'm not sure that he ever married

    I've lost Daisy though, cannot find her prior to her son's birth in 1911 though I do know from his birth cert that she was a domestic servant; not sure what happened to her afterwards either, though she may be the Daisy Ellen that married Alfred J Bootman in Willesden in 1926 (confusingly he seems to have married a Daisy M Whiting 10 years prior o_O). Anyway she ends up in Enfield following this marriage (if I have the right one), eventually dying in Norfolk.

    1939 and death record have dob 1 Dec 1889, which fits with her birth reg Mar 1890. She was born in Friston, Suffolk

    I'll propbably have to get her bc (cheaper than the mc)
     
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    Did she have a sister Ethel May married William Henry Chilcot
    If so she is in Hendon Middlesex as SIL to William
    Sunnyside, Colin Deep Lane, Hendon
    RG14 PN7112 SN52

    Both Ethel and Daisy have a pob as South Cove Suffolk
     
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    I think the sisters Ethel May and Daisy Ellen's parents were Robert Whiting and Georgina Stammer/s who married in 1884. I found both their birth registrations on the GRO.
     
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    A Daisy E Whiting married Arthur D Philpot in Dec Q. 1926, Plomesgate, Suffolk (the same reg. district as her birth). They can be found together on the 1939 Register, although her birth year is one year out - d.o.b. given as 16 Oct 1890. Arthur is 12 years older.
     
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    I think the right Daisy Ellen is entered as Ellen Daisy born Friston 1890
    Servant to the Hatfield family in Woodbridge
    RG14 PN10902 SN127
     
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    ah no here s a list of siblings
    Jane Elizabeth WHITING 1893–1978
    Mabel Alice WHITING 1895–1980
    Stanley John William WHITING 1898–1981
    Basil Amos George WHITING 1901–1984
    Dorothy Dorcas WHITING 1904–1905
    Elsie Mary WHITING 1906–1936
    Gladys Violet WHITING 1911–1914
     
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    I did see this but convinced myself if it was the other Daisy Ellen from South Cove.
    I think I just got myself all confused and muddled, because I managed to add the wrong birth registration to my tree (corrected now :rolleyes:)
     
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    Thank you I shall take a look, not sure why it didn't present itself to me :sceptical:
     
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    Thank you for your help everyone, I will probably order the birth certificate, as it is probably the best way to find her for certain
     
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    Try as I might I cannot find this 1911 census on Ancestry, nor do I understand how the references work. :(
     
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    It's not coming up for me, either - but I can get it on FMP
     
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    Glad it is not just me. I've added it manually
     
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    I can find Mr Hatfield (Head of house) listed on the summary book, but not the actual census page. I expect there are some missing.
     
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    I have sent you a copy ;)
     
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    Got it, but only by scrolling through the pages!

    It is image number 252 of 381 when you do a search of the 1911 census for Suffolk, Woodbridge, (Sub registration District ALL), Enumeration District 16.
     
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    That's perseverance :)
     
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    Thank you both :)
     
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    Daisy Ellen's birth cert arrived today, she was born 16 Oct 1889, so it seems @Jellylegs was right and she married Mr Philpot ;):) Thanks
     

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