Death Certificates IOM

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  1. Bay Horse

    Bay Horse Can be a bit of a dark horse

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    I've never ordered from the IOM before.

    I was able to find the relevant indices on ManxBMD, years of birth, districts, volume and page numbers - however it would seem that if you don't know the exact date of death (that's why I'm sending for the things!) this incurs a +£5 search charge per certificate. Am I reading this correctly? :sceptical:
     
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    I think that you are, but if you know the relevant references, it does seems strange that they also need an actual date.

    @AnnaJenny has ancestors on the IoM - maybe she will be able to advise. :)
     
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    Thanks, Jan.
     
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  4. AnnaJenny

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    I have copies of the IofM magazine. I will have a hunt through and see if I can find anythinf to say otherwise. I have not tried getting copies of death certs so can not answer from experience.
     
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    Thank you.

    I meant 'death', of course. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Flook

    Flook A True Gentleman. Rest in Peace.

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    I can see that this seems to be an unfair charge (and it does look like that at first), but what they are really offering is a £5.00 discount on the standard charge if the exact date is already known. This means they would not have to do any searching for the entry and this would therefore save their staff extra work in searching the registers within specified time parameters for the required information.

    Of course this isn't much comfort if you think their standard charges are too high in the first place!
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    I suppose this person is out of reach of the 1939 Register? It may have given correct [or not :)] birth date.
     
  8. AnnaJenny

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    Nothing in the mags about certificates. You could try the forum in case somebody local would do a look up. isleofman
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    otherwise it will be pay up! Sorry not to be any help. Jenny
     
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    Today, payday, I thought okay, let's give it a whirl. I need two death certs, but thought I might afford one this month, the other next.

    Quantity of certificates required - death certificate, £10. All good.
    Date of death - DD/MM/YYYY. I only know the year from Manx.BMD indices which tallies with a transcription on FMP. I enter '1963' and it demands a date from 1st January, if full date not known. Ker-ching. That will be a £25 search fee. Ker-ching. Total amount payable for one copy death certificate - £35.

    A week's grocery shopping. No thank you.

    You were correct, Flook.

    And I've completely gone off kippers for the foreseeable.
     
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  10. Grizel

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    Hi BH

    Was your relative buried ( as opposed to cremated)?If so , it might be worth checking out the iomfhs burial index which does seem to have some burials for 1963. But I expect you have already gone down that route!
     
  11. Bay Horse

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    Indeed, Grizel. Thanks. :)


    This'll just have to go on the back burner again, until a lottery win. Having chased these two for so long, all over the world, at least I now have a year and town of death for the pair of them. They're not going anywhere in the meantime. :)
     
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    Here is a thought. Why not ring them ( without mentioning the website conditions). Just say you have your relative's death year and could you buy the certificate. You never know they may be quite obliging and charge the lower price. Nothing lost by trying. And they are usually a friendly bunch - have had a few lovely holidays on the island.:)
     
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  13. Bay Horse

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    Maybe worth a try, Grisel. I have the volume and page number, after all.

    Might even go over there. We were talking about it last night, as my husband's aunt retired there. She's no longer with us, but hubby knows the island quite well through her, and he says he would like to go back for a short break.

    Last time I went there I travelled on the Manxman, which shows how long ago it was. There was a fair bit of roll in that old boat! :confused: My stomach is doing backward flips just thinking about it.
     
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    Maybe we were just lucky but the sea was like a millpond each time!
     
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    Some of the indexes are at Ancestry, if that's any help - titled as follows:

    "Web: Isle of Man, Burial Index, 1598-2003" sourced from Manx National Heritage

    "Isle of Man, Select Parish Registers, 1598-1950" sourced from FamilySearch
     
  16. Bay Horse

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    Thanks very much, Arthur.

    Yes, I'd trawled through the burials - no record of them, so they must've been cremated.
     
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    Some local councils have burial/cremation records that haven't made it to the archives yet, and offer a look-up service, so I've just had a look for the IOM Crematorium. Apparently it's run by Douglas Borough Council - the website has a phone number, but I didn't see anything about registers etc:
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    http://douglas.im/index.php/services/crematorium
     
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  18. Bay Horse

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    Ooh. Maybe worth a try! Thanks, Arthur.
     
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    My IoM mag has just arrived and it occured to me that a mail to the library might prove helpful.
    iomfhs@manx.net
     
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    Thank you. :)
     
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