Don't you just LOVE the old newspapers!

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  1. kernowmaid

    kernowmaid Well-Known Member

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    If only they were indexed properly, we would know so much more about our ancestors.
    The problem is, once I start reading ... I can't stop!
    This gem (courtesy of BNA) is in the Leicestershire Mercury of 25 January 1845, taken from the Worcester Chronicle:

    FOURPENNY WEDDING - Mr John Jackson, of the Rising Sun, Gloucester, was recently married at St Michael's church, Gloucester, to Miss Ann Cottrill, daughter of Mr Jacob Cottrill, pin-manufacturer, of this town, when the bridegroom (who had been a long time "saving up" for the occasion) paid £2 12s 6d for the license, £1 1s to the minister, 5s to the clerk, 2s 6d to the sexton, and £1 to the ringers, IN FOURPENNY PIECES. He also paid for the bride-cake, and the fare of himself and bride to Nottingham, in the like small coin.

    I thought the bride's parents always paid for the wedding, but evidently not in 1845. When did that tradition start? And what idiot started it??

    Jane
     
  2. Archie's Mum

    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    We were lucky. Our daughter and her partner didn’t bother to get married. They saved us heaps. If they decide to do it now then it’s all on them. 8(:-)
     
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    kernowmaid Well-Known Member

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    Same paper, same page:

    SUDDEN DEATH AT THRINGSTONE - An inquest was held at Thringston, on the 17th, on the body of Richard Kirkham, 73 years of age, and formerly of Arkington, Derbyshire, who died suddenly the previous Tuesday evening, while sitting in his chair by the fire-side. - Verdict, "Died by the Visitation of God".

    I wonder what it said on the Death Cert?

    Jane
     
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    I'm the same way! You can read for hours! Found some fantastic ones in the Lincolnshire archives pages a few years back. Very colorful descriptions of people who "sold" their wives etc.
     
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    AnnB Editor in Chief who is Hot off the Press!

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    I’m not saying anything :oops::reading::D
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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  7. Bay Horse

    Bay Horse Can be a bit of a dark horse

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    I wish I had the knack of finding stuff the way our @AnnB does.
     
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    Jellylegs Well-Known Member

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    Me too
     
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    AnnB Editor in Chief who is Hot off the Press!

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    Yes, but it isn’t really a knack, more like an obsession :nailbiting: :D
     
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    Bay Horse Can be a bit of a dark horse

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    I'm sure I've seen 'by Visitation of God' on a certificate. What would be the modern equivalent? - 'died of natural causes' I suppose.

    My g-grandmother's cause of death was 'old age'. She was fifty. :sceptical:
     
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    AnnB Editor in Chief who is Hot off the Press!

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    Just to prove my point that it's an obsession (in other words, I look up everything)

    Edinburgh Evening News 3rd March 1874
    At a coroner's inquest held at Whitby, yesterday, Mr Buchanan, the coroner, said the medical officer to the rural sanitary authority, in his recent report to the Guardians, had stepped out of his proper province to animadvert on the verdict of "Died by the visitation of God," which coroner's juries, under the guidance or trained lawyers, were accustomed to give. He (the Coroner) thought this was piece of impertinence, a coroner's inquest was a judicial and not a scientific inquiry, and its end was to ascertain whether the deceased had died by fair or foul means. "Died by the visitation of God" was a verdict recognised by the law of England, and a verdict of "Died of natural causes" was only worthy of a jury of semi-infidels, such he hoped never to address. He hoped the jury he was now addressing did believe in the "visitation of God," and were not afraid to say so their verdict. The jury found verdict "Died by the visitation of God."

    Like BH, I know I've got it on a death cert somewhere, but the cause of death which seems to crop up a lot with my lot is 'decay of nature' - I think I'd rather have 'visitation of God' :eek:
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    Mine will read 'died from doing something stupid as usual' :D
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    The 'decay' ones really get me. Like an old tree stump left out in a paddock to rot away. :(
     
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    Findem The Fearless One

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    Mine will probably read Stubborn old beggar didn't know when to give up. :rolleyes: :D
     
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