Dublin and Wicklow

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  1. RainyK

    RainyK New Member

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    Hi all i have a brick wall that i hope to crack.

    My Great Grandmother was born in Dublin abt 1886

    Her Parents on her Marriage Cert are William Henry Evans and Mary Hans

    This lead me to the 1901 Ireland Census where i found William Mary and there 5 children and a border in Dundrum Dublin.

    This then lead me to the marriage of William and Mary that i purchased a copy of from Ireland Records

    Im now stuck as i am unable to find a birth for William or Mary to continue the research of the family. According to the 1901 census William was born in Wicklow and Mary was born in Down.

    Also i am unable to find them on the 1911 Census or a burial for either. I do think i have found the son Ernest in North St, Swords east Dublin as a border aged 13.

    I hope all of this makes sense :)

    Thank you for patience with me.
     

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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    Well, I have had a good old rummage for them and cannot find them either. :(

    I found what I think was their son John in 1911, still living in Dundrum, aged 27 and working as a Gardner. However, he is on his own - no other members of the family with him - so no extra clues there.
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    Ooh! I have just found the daughter, Ina, working as a Housemaid in 1911 in Waterloo, just north of Liverpool, (RG14, PN22308, RD455) which makes me wonder if much of the rest of the family moved to England as well.
     
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    William and Mary were Church of Ireland. I have found a baptism for a William Henry Evans, '29 Feb 1852 21 Dec 1851 William Henry EVANS John/Anna Delgany1 je' in the Anglican Records. This is the document 'http: //ireland.anglican.org/cmsfiles/pdf/AboutUs/library/AngRecord/Delgany/Delgany-Vol-4-01.pdf'. If you search for Evens it will find it on page 14. Delgany is close to Greystones in Co. Wicklow.

    Not sure if this is him.
     
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    Given that Ernest is in an orphanage in 1911, it is possible that a parent has died.
    Mary's age is a little out (which is often the case with Irish records I have found) , but I think she and Wm Henry are in Churchtown Upper, Milltown, Dublin in 1911.
    Oh dear I lost a bit when I posted! Here goes again!

    Do you have the possible baptisms of Wm junior and Ina? William Henry 1890 Milltown, Dublin and Georgina Wilhelmina 1888 Milltown

    ( from Irish Genealogy church records.)

    Looking at their civil records there is a death of a 50 yr old William Evans in S Dublin in 1903 which could be worth checking.

    And welcome to TD,RainyK :)
     
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    Hi all thank you for your fast reply's. I'm off to work this morning so ill have a better look when i get home at all the information.

    Sorry i should have added to my original post that my great grandmother (Elizabeth Ann Evans) did move to England and was found on the 1911 census in Liscard, Cheshire.
    She then came to Australia in 1914 on the Persic

    Grizel i will look for the records you mention when i get home they sound promising
     
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    Also in Irish Genealogy.ie (see above from Grizel #5) are some other baptisms that could be worth thinking about maybe taking you back a generation. Plus joy of joy they have scans of the records.
    I know the census says he came from Wicklow but it may be worth thinking broadly about that accuracy.

    Pleased to see another Irish researcher here. Welcome.
    Jenny
     
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    Hi all sorry got a little distracted by Easter hat parade construction.

    Thank you Glyn Scally that indeed looks promising, will try and find it.

    AnnaJenny, where else would you suggest looking? i'm hopeless with locations and distance so have no idea where to look bar what is written on documents.
     
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    Oh and silly question do Irish death records have parent info like aussie ones do?
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    Sadly, not usually unless it is the death of a child. :(

    The information on an Irish death certificate is:
    · name
    · occupation
    · age at death
    · marital status of deceased
    · duration of illness
    · date, place and cause of death
    · signature, qualification, and residence of the informant
    For a married or widowed woman a spouse’s name is sometimes recorded under occupation: "the wife/widow of...". Where a child has died, the child’s occupation is often given as “son or daughter of …”.
     
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    I was just meaning don't discount Dublin.
    Could depend on how the question was asked.
    "Where were you born?" should hopfully get the correct answer to take you to the correct Parish Record.
    BUT...If the question is "Where do you come from?" The answer could be where father was born or where parents lived. That in turn could be Townland, Parish, Barony. All of which leads to a long search....
    Jenny
     
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    Why is my quote not in a pretty pink box. What am I doing wrong?
     
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    I typed this first then pressed reply on your post
    OK got that wrong sorry:(
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    It is beacuse you did not include the first part of the coding for the quote when you deleted the first part of RainyK's post in your reply..... if you follow me... :confused:
     
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    Thanks Jan
    Sorry RainyK to go off piste and hijack your thread for a tutorial.
    Jenny
     
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