Eliza Dorling baptised 20 Jan 1822 Barton Mills, Suffolk

Hello everyone,

Eliza Dorling is not my ancestor, but I am researching "unsourced" files on Wikitree. Eliza married Henry Bacon in the Jan-Mar qtr of 1842. Marriage registered in Mildenhall.

By the 1851 census, Eliza and Henry are living on Plough St, Mildenhall and have two sons, Edmund born 1844 and William born 1846.

From my research there was an Eliza Dorling who was born/baptised 20 Jan 1822 and supposedly died 1832 in Barton Mills. Father is supposedly Robert Clark Dorling (1786-1868) and mother is supposedly Elizabeth Hood (1787-1864). The tree that contains the death doesn't have much, but being prior to 1837, its not much to go on.

I think that they have just picked an "Elizabeth" and entered the date, without a lot of research.

The deanery for Mildenhall is, I believe, Sudbury. I have Stow & Thedwastre, Bosmere & Claydon baptisms.

The Bacon family goes way back into the 1st Baronets, Gillingham (St Mary), Mildenhall, and Redgrave, co. Suffolk in the 1500 and 1600's.

I would really appreciate some help with Eliza. Thanking you in advance.

Wendy aka MrsHuma

 

There is a marriage of Robert Dorling to Elizabeth Hood
22/2/1806 at Barton Mills

Source Suffolk Marriage Transcriptions

 

Hello MollyMay! Yes, I have seen that marriage they have a number of children starting in 1807 and they have an Elizabeth (1820-1900) and an Eliza (1822-1832). In the 1891 census for Elizabeth, she is single, age 72 and a laundress. HMMMMMM........ doesn't look like either one of them.

 

Baps to Robert and Elizabeth in Barton Mills:-
Robert Clark 25/12/1812
Ann 19/2/1816
Mary 17/5/1818
Eliza 20/1/1822 - NBI burial 22/1/1832 age 10
Rachael 14/11/1823 - NBI burial 3/10/1824 infant
George 10/7/1825
Rachael 30/9/1827
plus Elizabeth 8/10/1820 no parish given just Suffolk

I have only seen transcriptions, and none have the mmn entered.
I would hazard a guess that these are not the children of Robert Dorling and Elizabeth Hood, not that I can find another Robert/Elizabeth marriage (could be Elizabeth Clark seeing the first child's name)

 

She may have a sister by the name of Amy or Amelia born 1819. I found Amy and Eliza together in the 1841 census, residence White Horse, Mildenhall.

 

There seem to be a lot of Dorling's around, but I have also seen the last name Darling, person writing is only as good as their knowledge of English and with the English accent is it pronounced Darling?

Must leave, but will check in tomorrow. TY for help so far.

 

One way forward would be to get a look at the marriage cert of Eliza and Henry Bacon, which would give a father's name to work with.

 

In 1841 and in 1871 Eliza has an Amy Dorling (b1820c Barton Mills) with her.
I cannot find a baptism for Amy either

 

Amelia Maria Dorling bap 1821 Herringswell, marries in 1850 and can be found in the following census.
Amy Dorling remains single and can be tracked from 1841 to her death 1895 in Mildenhall.

 

I think this is as far as I can go at this time. I will go back to the Bacon line, which I started with. I always get sidetracked with the women, they have mother's and father's too!!

Thank you Molly May, I will be back, be forewarned.

Wendy aka MrsHuma

 

England Births and Christenings via Family Search has Eliza DORLINS christening 20/1/1822 father Robert DORLINS mother Elizabeth DARLINS. In 1841 Eliza Dorling is with her sister Amy and her age is 19 (1822). When Eliza Bacon dies in 1908 she is 87 (1821)

 

Thank you so much Sue!! I had suspicions that the last name was "off" but, as usual the spelling is only as good as the person's knowledge of English.

Did a search on Ancestry for Robert Dorling and found a tree that Robert Clark Dorling married Elizabeth Hood and that they married 28 Feb 1806 in Barton Parva. [Barton Mills ( was called Barton Parva ) near Mildenhall , Suffolk UK].

They have an Elizabeth Dorling (1820-1900) and an Eliza Dorling (1822-1832) but no Amy (she may not have been discovered by the owner of the tree). There are 11 children in total in the tree. Most likely Elizabeth is called Eliza?

Robert Clark Dorling and Elizabeth Hood are most likely the parents that I am searching for.

Any thoughts?? Gratefully accepted.

Wendy aka MrsHuma

 

Another consideration is that Eliza Dorling was widowed when she married Henry. I have searched all the Dorling trees I can find and nothing fits with Eliza. Eliza born 1822 and died, some say 1832 others 1822. Elizabeth born 1820 has three children under the name of Dorling. No husband forthcoming.

 

However, how do we know for sure that this is the Eliza that was born and died in 1822/32. It could be another Eliza Dorling (related or not) and ours is found on the 1841 with her sister Amy and goes on to marry Henry Bacon in 1842. Amy can be found with the Bridgemans in 1851 but where is Eliza? Married to Henry Bacon? She doesn't seem to be anywhere else that I can see.

 

Thank you for the idea of Eliza being a widow when she married Henry! Never thought of that one for her, particularly. But farther back in the Bacon tree I have found a marriage for Edmund Bacon who married Mary Platford. I couldn't find her anywhere either and then - I found this: #34 - 03/08/1756 Edmund BACON Mary PLATFORD Widow Swaffham, Norfolk (in the Tinstaafl registers for Mildenhall) so her maiden/original name has yet to be found as well.

So a male "Dorling" who died probably not more than 2 months to 2 years prior to 31 Mar 1842. So she is with her sister or sister in law in the 1841 census at White Horse, Mildenhall - hmmmm - more snooping to do.

That would make so much more sense.

Thank you Sue Wendy aka MrsHuma

 

Chasing Amy Dorling.
If you look at the 1861 census (on Anc), where she is entered as Anny, there has been a correction submitted by a member who appears to have researched a Dorling one name study. It might be worth contacting her to see if she can solve the problem of Eliza and Amy.

In 1861 Amy has 3 children, and is unmarried - Mary Ann 20, Samuel 15, and Anna 4. RG09/1142/31/15

In 1851 Amy (Amey on FMP) is working as a nurse H0107/1793/86/7 daughter Mary Ann is a visitor to Stephen and Mary (maiden name Dorling) King
HO107/1793/105/2

 

Will do!! Thank MollyMay. Wendy aka MrsHuma

 

Hi Mrs Huma, I just joined this site, so hope you find my post. I do have the marriage for Henry and Eliza Bacon nee Dorling. It clearly gives you her father as Samuel Dorling. Also Mildenhall is in the Fordham Deanery in Suffolk. The only marriage I can see of a Samuel Dorling to a Mary Bennett on the 28th June 1804 at Lakenheath. Samuel and Mary seem to have had their children baptised in Barton Mills, but I cannot see one for Eliza. They had an Elizabeth in 1812.... but going on her marriage it said she was 20 in 1842. Hope this helps.
Regards Judy

 

Thanks Doug, hope she does... as the line she is following... is the wrong family. Cheers. I do a lot of research in the Mildenhall area.