Found the above on Cornwallopc and the information says base child, not of Veryan. These two bastards neither born nor by other in this Parish. Forgive my ignorance but what does that mean? I know that it refers to the child but will it also refer to the mother? What does 'nor by other in this parish mean'? Not seen this written before on other baptisms. At the moment I can't find the original on familysearch to see what was actually written so I contacted the online parish clerk for information but no answer as yet.
Transcript only FMP Eliza Peters Baptism date 13 Jul 1817, Veryan, Cornwall Father John Whitmar Mother Mary Peters
Yes, I believe that it refers to both mother and child. As it states that neither of them were born or fathered by men of the parish of Veryan, it means that neither could claim any support from that parish. Back in the day, mothers could claim Parish Relief for their child if the purported father had legged it. But in this case, as Veryan was not the home parish for either (or the purported father), it was a "heads up" to the Parish that if she came asking, they were to turn her back to her own parish. That's how I read it.....
Familysearch has her Jan 1838 marriage certificate and her father is William Watchman a tide-waiter. I was curious as to what -These two bastards neither born nor by other in this Parish mean. Probably one is the child but why refer to the mother as a bastard at a christening. I have seen othe baptisms where a mother is single and a child is a bastard. Hate that word. Poor children.
I will have to try and find where the mother came from now. But why say the mother is a bastard? Did they ask that of all those who had children where the father legged it?
I haven't seen the original register, but the OPC listing for 1817 shows another illegitimate child, Richard Snell, baptised 24 Aug. If these were adjacent entries, might the note be referring to both of them, rather than to Eliza and her mother?
