Which family is Elizabeth’s ? From her marriage certificate, Elizabeth Morgan’s father is recorded as Thomas, a labourer. Elizabeth married Joseph Prince on January 31st, 1865 in the Parish Church, Ballingham, Herefordshire..According to the marriage cert. She was 23 , he was 30. ( therefore born about 1842?) Census records going forward… 1871... ( 22/4/2600/46/1) Elizabeth Prince , 32 born abt.1839, Betere,( original looks like Belire) Herefordshire ( from previous forum it was suggested it is Tretire which is in the Ross area) 1881..(22/2523/69/6) Elizabeth Prince, 42, born abt. 1839, Ross (Glos Westbury) Hereford 1891...( 22/2005/136/6) 43 born about 1848 [really out!}, Herefordshire 1911... With Jane’s help, on post about a daughter, Mary Elizabeth Prince.. Her birth place is recorded as Hillsely? Ross…Rg14/14993 schedule 181 http://www.genealogy-specialists.com/threads/5-is-more-than-a-crowd.889/#post-28092 I do not have her death certificate ( which wouldn’t tell me anymore about the Morgan family--I don’t think) … but I believe she is the Elizabeth Prince who died 3rd qtr. 1920 in Bristol. Age 73... Which would make her born 1847... So… from all these I know to search for a family with Elizabeth Morgan, born sometime between 1839 and 1849!!! Somewhere around Ross , Herefordshire. With a father named Thomas. ---the only thing I am over 90% sure is real . I have searched and searched, but how will I know I have the correct family with all the Morgan families in that area?. .. 2 of the contenders in 1851 are Household 15/piece1976 folio 49 pg. 5 with Thomas Morgan ….36 Elizabeth Morgan…38 Mary Ann….11 Elizabeth….6 * ( 1845) ( born Ross) Ellen…. 4 George…2 James 3 m ( mistranscribed as 34--same age as parents!!) Household 42 piece 1979 folio 277 pg.11 Thomas Morgan…. 44 Elizabeth Morgan….32 Ann…12 Elizabeth …10* ( born Weobley- which Chimp says is not very close to Ross) Thomas ..18 ( either a mis-trans for 8 or son from previous marriage for Thomas snr.) Mary ..6 Caroline…4 Jane…3 John…1 And a lodger… There are also other Morgan families in the area and just over in East Dean Gloucestershire with a father Thomas and daughter Elizabeth. Does anyone have any helpful solutions? Family lore is this Morgan family has ties to Captain Morgan ( but we don’t talk about him!) and I would like to prove or disprove this by the family reunion in August.