Finding Thomas Fitzgerald

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    Hi
    I am seeking assistance with information about my great grandfather. we have come up against a brick wall.
    He came to Australia to work on the railway from Ireland. We want to find out 1 what date he left 2 the port he left from 3 the name of the ship he was on 4 the date he arrived in Australia 5 the port he arrived in
    We have his birth & death details, death certificate, details of his parents & all his siblings.
    Thomas Fitzgerald
    born 1858 in Dingle kerry Ireland
    died 1930 in Brunswick Victoria Australia
    Wife Johanna Lennen
    Father Robert Fitzgerald
    Mother Johanna Herlihy
     
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    Hi Colin - did he marry Johanna in Ireland or Australia? Do you know when?

    Thanks :)
     
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    Married in Australia
     
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    Hi
    I have attached/uploaded some documents
     
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    Married in 1884
     
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    Thomas Fitzgerald
    Middle name possibly Joseph.

    Born: circa 20/november/1858 in Boherbrack, Kinnard, west Lispole on the Dingle Peninsula in Co Kerry Ireland.
    Arrived in Australia ?? must have been here to start work by 03/01/1884 as per employment records
    Married 1884 marriage cert # 598
    Buried in Family plot at Melbourne General Cemetery with son Robert who died age 12. Also with son Anthony and 2 granddaughters plot # 962

    Death certificate #12743
    Date : 10 december 1930
    Address: 25 Barry street Brunswick
    Name : Thomas Fitzgerald
    Occupation: Railway Employee
    Gender: Male
    Age: 70 years
    Cause of death & duration : Carcinoma of stomach (6 months), Toxaemia
    Parents names & occupation: Robert Fitzgerald (occ. Farmer) Johannah Fitzgerald Nee Herlihy
    When and where buried: 11 december 1930, Melbourne General Cemetery
    where born: Kerry, Ireland (additional research found specifically Boherbrack)
    How long in Australian states: 52 years in Victoria
    Where and at what age married, to whom : Fitzroy, 24 years , Johanna Lennon
    Issue in order of birth and ages:
    Mary 45
    Robert deceased
    Julia 39
    James 37
    Cecelia 35
    Veronica 33 (birth name actually Johanna Veronica called Vera by the family)
    Meletine 31
    John 29
    Anthony 27
    Robert 23
    Gerald 21


    3 potentially relevant entries in the Griffiths valuation re “Robert Fitzgerald” (father of Thomas) in the Kinnard Parish Boherbrack, Gowlane Beg and Gowlane Ard. (all extremely close)

    Railway Employment (info viewed in person at NAA in Melbourne circa 2008)
    Victorian Railways started in 19/03/1856 by Victorian Parliament trains did not run until 1859. Anecdotally Thomas loved trains and came out here specifically to work with the trains, later in life took his Grandchildren to see “Puffing Billy” a steam train that runs in the Dandenong Ranges.

    Microfiche, SLV Victorian Railway Employees 19th Century, FITCH-IRVINE 03
    (complied by Bob Thornton Aug 1988)

    Name: Thomas Fitzgerald
    Dept: 8247
    Birth date: (blank)
    Appointed: 03/01/1884
    Grade: labourer / Ganger
    Branch: Engineers
    Locations/comments: Gen 2 married st.5.78 (possibly salary? )
    Source: R84 (department print of tri-annual staff lists, 1884) G89 (tri-annual staff lists from the Government Gazzette)

    NB the above Triannual indexes are notoriously inaccurate, published between 1884 - 1929.

    Second source Index to Railway employees 1899, entry 2511, page 120, no additional Info.

    Siblings source unknown.
    John Fitzgerald
    Born 27 July 1851, Kinard, Co Kerry, Ireland
    Died 27 May 1914 Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts, USA
    Married Catherine Welch (born Ireland circa 1855) 11 November 1880 in Springfield, USA
    Garrett Fitzgerald
    Born 19 June 1853, Kinard, Co Kerry, Ireland
    Died 21 March 1891, Kinard, Co Kerry, Ireland * newspaper article*
    Married Johanna Dowd (daughter of Thomas Dowd and Mary Sullivan 04/ nov/1849 in Glin, Co Kerry) 23 February 1876, Kinard, Co Kerry, Ireland
    James Fitzgerald
    Born 22 July 1855, Kinard, Co Kerry, Ireland
    Died after 1911 Kinard, Co Kerry, Ireland
    Married Catherine Moriarty ( daughter of John Moriarty & Bridget O’Connor) 06 February 1889, Kinard, Co Kerry, Ireland
    **According to this source Thomas was born on 19 July 1857 - but uses a birth record with mothers maiden name listed as O’Donnell**
    Robert Fitzgerald
    Born 08 May 1859, Kinard, Co Kerry, Ireland
    Died 23 March 1922 in Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA.
    Married Mary Ray circa1893 in Illinois, USA. (she was born in Illinois, USA)
    Daniel Fitzgerald
    Born 25 June 1861, Kinard, Co Kerry, Ireland
    Died 14 September 1925 Danville, Vermillion, Illinois, USA
    Married Katherine M. (She was born in april 1870 in Ireland)
    Maurice Fitzgerald
    Born 15 December 1863, Kinard, Co Kerry, Ireland
    Mary Fitzgerald
    Born 08 August 1866, Kinard, Co Kerry, Ireland
    Died July 1934 in Northamptonshire, Hampshire, Massachusetts, USA
    Married John Ruddy (police officer, son of Patrick Ruddy and Bridget Dunn) on 17 May 1891, Amherst, Hampshire, Massachusetts, USA


    Will & Testament:
    Estate left to his wife Johanna with executor being his son in law John “Jack” William Henry Evans.
     
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    I have moved this thread over to Empire and Commonwealth in the hope that our members in Oz who have access to immigration records can help. :)
     
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    FindMyPast has the following information:

    Thomas Fitzgerald, aged 24 (so born about 1858) departing from Plymouth, England on 28th April 1882 on board the Western Monarch and arriving at Maryborough on 6th August that year.

    This is a transcript from the Queensland Assisted Immigration list 1848-1912.

    I am not saying that it is him, but it does come up close. If he landed in Queensland, then he would have enough time to get over to Melbourne to start work in the January of 1884, having gone through any recruitment process.

    However, it is a transcription and there may well be further information on the original paperwork.
     

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