George Henry Truan bap 1876

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  1. Genie1

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    George Heny Truan bap 1876 at Gerrans Cornwall and a son of George Frederick Truan and Eliza Robins married Rose Ann Field (father Elija) July 1907 in Hampshire. Goerge was blind.
    They had 3 children in 1911 but one died but when they emigrated in 1912 there were 3 children Eustice;Leonard and Rose Anna. Rose Anna being born after death of sister.
    Imagine my surprise when I saw whom I believe is the family living in Devon in 1939 with his wife and a daughter Cecilia and a son named Hector S.
    Is it possible to find when Frederick and his wife returned to England.
    I think that daughter Rose Anna stayed in the US but will have to check.
    Where were Cecilia and Hector born?
     
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    The birth of Hector is recorded in the June quarter of 1922 in Plymouth registration district (volume 5b, page 423) with Cecilia in the December quarter of 1919, also in Plymouth registration district (volume 5b, page 424)

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    I think Cecilia may be a bit too old to be their Daughter and looking at the original image I would say her Surname id Grant not Truan.

    Freebmdhas a Hector S Truan with the mother's surname of Field registered in the 2 qtr of 1922 in Plymouth

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    Opps looks like I misread the date as 79 not 19 (same as the transcribers)

    There is a marriage of Cecilia T Truan to Peter Grant in Romford 1946
     
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    Several more births registered in Plymouth with Mothers surname as Field

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    A few more that I didn't know about.
    I will have to see when they returned to the UK.
     
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    A public tree on Ancestry says:

    Arrival
    16 Nov 1912 • New York, New York

    Refused admittance due to blindness,family deported back to U.K.,not having left Ellis Island.

    They linked it to a copy of 'New York Passenger Lists 1920-1957'. I don't have a World subscription so it wouldn't let me see it.
     
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    ELLIS Island Records have Eustage George, George Henry, Leonard and Rose Anna arriving in 1912 on the Philadelphia.
     
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    Not what you asked but thought I would throw it in anyway.

    When Geroge married Rose he was a widower. His previous wife had been Hannah Pascoe. They had married in St Peter, Plymouth on 7th January 1895. Hannah died in Portsmouth in 1907. They had at least one daughter, Sylvia Adeline Truan, born in 1895 and registered in Truro.

    Sylvia was baptised on 26 Sep 1895 at St. Just-in-Roseland, Cornwall.

    Sylvia Adeline TRUAN
    Baptism: 26-Sep-1895, Just in Roseland, St.
    Father: George Henry
    Mother: Anna
    Residence: Windmill, St Just
    Father Rank Profession: tea hawker
    Notes: born May 11th

    On 23rd March 1907 Hannah booked herself and Sylvia into the workhouse in Portsmouth. Hannah was said to leave on 30th March, Sylvia left on 3rd April.

    On 3rd December 1908 a batch of children were sent to Portland, Origan, on the Dominion, departing from Liverpool. One of those children was Sylvia A Truan.

    Not sure why the date on this record was 3rd December as others have the departure as 12th March 1908, Dominion to Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

    Sylvia Truan
    Sex: Female
    Age: 10
    Year: 1908
    Ship name: Dominion
    Name full party: Barnardo Homes
    Place: Toronto, Ontario
    Record set: Canada, Home Children Immigration Records Index, 1869-1930

    In 1911 there is a Sylvia Truan, born 1895, as a domestic servant in the household of the Brash family in Fermoy Village, Bedford, Ontario, Canada. Says born England.

    October 1912 has a Sylvia A Truan, immigration United States, Canadian Border Crossings. Buffalo, New York.

    It says:-

    Name: Sylvia A Truan
    POB: Cornwall
    Age: 18
    Occupation: Domestic
    Last residence: Hamilton, Canada
    Read & Write: Yes
    Name & Address of nearest relative: Father, George Truan, Portsmouth, Eng.
    Height: 5 foot 2 n half inches
    Complexion: Fair
    Hair: Brown
    Eyes: Brown
    Distinguishing Marks: Small scar on top of nose.
     
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    Hannah died June 1907 Portsmouth.
    How sad. I wonder if George was going to the US to find her.
     
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    I believe that, yes they were going to meet up. The family arrived in November and Sylvia crossed into Buffalo in October 1912. :(
     
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    Sorry, but I can’t a birth registration for a Rose Anna Truan, sister of Eustace and George Henry.
     
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    Yes, it says:-

    Destination and name and address of relative or friend to join there: Wellington, O. Father and Mother, Mr(s)? George Truan, Main St. Make Home.
     
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    There were only 4 Truan passengers on the 1912 manifest.

    NAME: George Henry Truan
    MARITAL STATUS : Married
    GENDER : Male
    AGE AT ARRIVAL : 35y
    YEAR OF BIRTH : N/A
    ETHNICITY : English
    PASSENGER ID : 101034120180
    DATE OF ARRIVAL : November 16th, 1912
    SHIP OF TRAVEL : Philadelphia
    PORT OF DEPARTURE : Southampton

    NAME: Rose Anna
    MARITAL STATUS : Married
    GENDER : Female
    AGE AT ARRIVAL : 30y
    YEAR OF BIRTH : N/A
    ETHNICITY : English
    PASSENGER ID : 101034120181
    DATE OF ARRIVAL : November 16th, 1912
    SHIP OF TRAVEL : Philadelphia
    PORT OF DEPARTURE : Southampton

    NAME: Eustace George
    MARITAL STATUS : Single
    GENDER : Male
    AGE AT ARRIVAL : 5y
    YEAR OF BIRTH : N/A
    ETHNICITY : English
    PASSENGER ID : 101034120182
    DATE OF ARRIVAL : November 16th, 1912
    SHIP OF TRAVEL : Philadelphia
    PORT OF DEPARTURE : Southampton

    NAME: Leonard Truan
    MARITAL STATUS : Single
    GENDER: Male
    AGE AT ARRIVAL : 3m
    YEAR OF BIRTH : N/A
    ETHNICITY : English
    PASSENGER ID : 101034120183
    DATE OF ARRIVAL : November 16th, 1912
    SHIP OF TRAVEL : Philadelphia
    PORT OF DEPARTURE : Southampton
     
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    The sister who had died was Bertha Olive, I take it, she who died in 1912 ?
     
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    Found two Baptisms at St George's Portsea Portsmouth Hampshire

    DATE: 03 Dec 1907
    NAME: Eustace George Truan
    FATHER: George Henry
    MOTHER: Roseanna
    RESIDENCE: 16 Havant ST

    DATE: 11 Jul 1911
    NAME: Cyril Henry Truan
    FATHER: George Henry
    MOTHER: Rose Anna
    RESIDENCE: 5 Chatham Row
     
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    Cyril Henry was a private baptism.
     
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    Gee whizz. Old George didn’t waste time. Hannah died in June and Roseanna and George were baptising Eustace in the December. Unless of course he was Hannah’s baby and Roseanna just took on the job.
     
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    Makes you wonder though.... Why did Hanna book herself and Sylvia into the workhouse in 1907. Why wasn't she with George?
     
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