Gervace,Gervase,Gervais, Jervis, Jarvis, Jervas Osborn Confusing enough

I'm not having too much luck with my researching at the moment. Nothing is straightforward !
Found a probable marriage on Ancestry for Gervase Osborn to Mary Mantle,in Northamptonshire marriage indexes but what's gone wrong with the marriage entry (and the one below It ?) they seem to be signed by completely random people ? Not seen this before. Tried uploading image but "computer says no".......

 

FMP has the marriage banns.
Gervase Osborn and Mary Mantle married by banns on the 7th July 1761 by me John Wingfield -Rector.
This marriage was solemnised between us- Garvase Osborn and Mary Mantle. Her mark.
In the prescence of John Frisby and John Cooks. Cooks look like Loooks.

 

Certainly different.

 

It looks like the record of Banns has been squeezed in before the marriage entry for the other couple. Which parish were they married in? The groom's or the bride's?

 

I didn't take time to notice earlier but that habit is continued down the page with other marriages--Banns popped in at the top.
Name:

Gervase Osborne
Spouse: Mary Mantle
Marriage: 10 Aug 1761 - Wood Newton, Northamptonshire, England
................
.Banns only
Name: Robert Hale of this parish
Spouse: Ann Goodman
Marriage: 10 Nov 1761 -of Nassington, Northamptonshire, England
.............................
Name: Robert Hale
Spouse: Anne Goodman
Marriage: 11 Feb 1762 - Wood Newton, Northamptonshire, England.

 

Hit the button early

 

Was Gervase married earlier to another Mary?
There is a birth for a John Osborn to Gervase and Mary in 1751, Ryhall, Rutland
or were they just late getting to the altar?

 

I haven't found an earlier marriage anywhere but a clear shot of banns shows Gervase to a 'Butcher & Mary a 'spinster'. Perhaps that was meant as Batchelor, I don't remember seeing trades in earlier marriages before.
Name: Mary Osborn
Mother: Mary Osborn
Father: Gervace Osborn
Baptism: 25 Nov 1753 - Essendine, Northamptonshire, England.

 

Marriage of Jervis Osborn to Mary Fuller 20//1739 Nassington, Northampton. Perhaps those births could be attributed to the above?
On a couple of Rootschat enquiries Gervase is also known as Jervis.

 

I id see a Jarvis a few times in my wonderings.

 

Burial of daughter Mary OSBORN in Essendine in 1756 (full image available on FMP). Can't find a burial yet for Mary OSBORN(E) nee FULLER yet.

Janet

 

Gervase's marriage to Mary MANTLE does not appear on the Northamptonshire Marriage Index. However, the marriage of Jervis OSBORN to Mary FULLER does. According to the Rutland PR Transcripts Vol 3, the marriage of Gervase OSBORN of Wood Newton, Butcher, & Mary MANTLE took place at Market Overton on 7 July 1761 by banns. This is backed up by the FMP image of the banns & marriage mentioned in post 2 by Genie.

Rutland registers do have quite a few occupations shown in the marriage records, so I definitely think it is Gervase's occupation shown.

Janet

 

My head hurts - journey through Northants, Leicestershire and now Rutland !!
Can't be that many Gervaces/Gervases surely. He would be the grandfather of the ubiquitous Jarvis Osborn, who has been much easier to follow.
I see now that it is a Rutland Marriage register but Ancestry has it listed under Northamptonshire marriagesa and I didn't think to check for myself !

 

Re the heading on #6- I've had all sorts of weird banners come up on Ancestry telling me various British churches etc were in places all across the world.

 

The counties are all quite close, Eve, and our ancestors do a lot more wandering than many people suppose. My HICKMAN lot started off in Bucks, then went to Northants, then Rutland, then ended up in Gloucestershire and I have still lost 3 baptisms somewhere between Northants, Rutland & Gloucestershire including that of my 3x great grandfather. Both he and his father worked for the NOEL family and they had property all over the place so heaven knows where he was baptised. Unfortunately he didn't survive until any census records and his younger brother only survived until the 1841 of Chipping Campden so I know he wasn't born in Gloucestershire - how many counties does that leave!! They were all well educated, regarded as local gentry, also left Wills but no clues to their baptisms there either.

Janet

 

I have no idea where I found that because FS has a marriage of Jervis Osborn to Mary FORSTER 20/11/1739 Nassington. Fuller or Forster?

 

Another one:
Robert Osborn
Father Gervace
Mother Mary
Baptised 24 Sept 1758 Essendine Rutland

 

Parish Register of Nassington shows that Jervis OSBON & Mary FORSTER were married on 20 November 1739. And to summarise the baptisms of children in Rutland:

23 June 1751 at Essendine John son of Gervace & Mary OSBORN
25 November 1753 at Essendine Mary daughter of Gervace & Mary OSBORN

But I haven't got one for Robert in 1758 at Essendine, either on the PR Trancripts or the Essendine registers via FMP but it does show up on the Bishop's Transcripts of Essendine via Ancestry.

There is also a baptism on the Bishop's Transcripts of Maxey, Northants for a Thomas son of Jarvis & Mary OSBORN dated 22 November 1744.

Janet

 

thanks guys - need to amend title of the thread to include Jervis and Jarvis as well ! Maxey is a new location - ta x