Grace Martin and Benjamin Porter, Convicts

Maybe she was born in Ireland and she went to work or was taken to Scotland by her family as a child. Just a thought.

 

Welcome to TD cuz'n Kezz

 

You may have uncovered our Benjamin, Sis on your Immigration Ancestors Project thread. Found a Benjamin Porter, convict with full description born Stafford. Of course it may not be him at all, who knows. We will see.
You are a star....

 

The dates mentioned are 1819-1834 and the hulk or ship is the Dolphin, later the Justitia so I have no idea what these dates relate to. I thought maybe this was an American Immigrant only site but they weren't taking convicts after 1776....I'm stuck.

 

We only have one convict Benjamin Porter and I think now the one on the hulk Dolphin is too late to be ours. Darn...so near. Dolphin was a hulk starting from 1819. Benjamin came in 1807. So where did the new Benjamin go? Not that we need anymore confusion.

 

What she said,..Welcome in cuz'n Kezz.

Found several Grace Nichol b. Northumberland about the due date.

 

Hi. Grace and Benjamin are my 3rd great grandparents. This is what I have on them. Benjamin was born in 1782 in Dublin Ireland and Grace was born in 1809 in Glasgow Scotland. They had 2 children, John Young Porter and Mary Porter. John was born 19 Jan 1845 in Mt Pleasant, Bathurst NSW and Mary was born on 15 August 1847 in Georges Plain NSW. John Young Porter married Caroline Jones. Caroline was born in 1847 in Bathurst NSW. They had 11 children. They were William Alexander Porter b1866, John b1867, Mary E. b1869, Sarah Catherine b1871, Elizabeth Caroline b1873, Edith M. b1877, Charles B. b1875, Ethel E.M. b1882, Elsie L. b1890, Caroline Alice b1879, Alfred J.J. b1888. I don't have any further information on Mary Porter. John Young Porter's daughter Caroline Alice Porter is my great grandmother. She married Robert William Smith. They had five children including my nan, Mary Olive May Smith. Their other children were Caroline b8 April 1906 aka Carrie, Robert William b25 July 1909, Jack, and Walter Raymond b 12 March 1919. Hope this information helps you with your family history research. Here is a photo of my great grandparents Caroline Alice Porter and Robert William Smith.

 

Thank you and welcome. I have sent you my email privately so you can, if you wish talk to Kerry. Great info and photos. Thank you.

 

Connectingthedots is certainly a helpful entry. Welcome in.

 

Welcome

 

I have found some more information re Benjamin Porter. The poor guy had a tough life. He was treated badly and kept running away from all the places they sent him until he got married.
Colonial Secretary Papers:
PORTER, Benjamin. Per “Duke of Portland”, 1807
1810 Sep 13: Miner. Sent to join working gang at Coal River (Reel 6003; 4/3490A p.86)
1811 Feb 9: Miner at Newcastle. In hospital at Sydney; needed at Newcastle (Reel 6066; 4/1804 pp.61, 63)
1811 Feb 16: Miner at Newcastle. Under medical care in Sydney (Reel 6003; 4/3490A p.165)
1811 Feb 20: Returning to Newcastle per “Governor Hunter” (Reel 6003; 4/3490A p.168)
1811 Mar 29: Apprehended in Sydney & returning to Newcastle per “Estramina” (Reel 6003; 4/3490A pp.173-4)
1811 Apr 6: Prisoner at Newcastle. Complained of cruel treatment (Reel 6066; 4/1804 pp.66, 68)
1813 Mar 22: On list of prisoners to be sent to Newcastle per “Estramina” (Reel 6003; 4/3492 p.211)
1815 Apr: On monthly return of prisoners punished at Newcastle (Reel 6023; 4/1718 p.43)
1821 Oct 16: On list of prisoners transported to Newcastle per “Elizabeth Henrietta” (Reel 6008; 4/3504 p.407)
1823 Oct 18: Convict runaway from Windsor. Details of previous movements of (Reel 6017; 4/5783 pp.487-8)
1823 Oct 31: On lists of prisoners transported to Port Macquarie per “Sally” (Reel 6019; 4/3864 pp.87, 448-9)
1824 Mar 1: Runaway from Wallis Plains (Reel 6060; 4/1777 p.184)
1824 Dec 10: Runaway from Port Macquarie; sentenced to Macquarie Harbour, Van Diemen’s Land. On return of fines and punishments in the Police Office (Reel 6023; 4/6671 p.103)
**No mention of him on Tasmanian records**
1824 Dec 21: On list of runaways from Port Macquarie forwarded to Newcastle per “Sally” (Reel 6014; 4/3513 p.130)
1838: TOL Bathurst
1843: Married Grace Martin at St Johns, Parramatta. (presumably this was Grace Nichol/Martin who arrived on the ‘Planter’ 1838 - her maiden name was Nichol and she married John Martin in Glasgow) - 2 children listed on NSW BDM, John Y Porter born 1845 and Mary Porter born 1847.
10/8/1850: CP
1860: Benjamin died at Liverpool, aged 79. He was admitted to the Sydney Benevolent Asylum on 15/3/1860 and discharged on the same date.
Grace died in 1854 aged 45, NSW.

 

Thank you for all this information. I will pass it on. Great help. Thanks again

 

Hi

I am the granddaughter of Caroline Alice Porter, Carrie b 1906 so we have the same tree, thank you for all the info you have provided, I did a lot of the same research years ago and just googled him tonight as my cousins daughter is interested and I found all this info

 

Thank you Christine and welcome.
As mentioned earlier, my husbands family are distantly related. His Uncle Raymond Gordon Williams married Lillian Mary Astill who is descended from the Porters mentioned. Lots of Williams and Astills in local cemeteries around here.

 

I'm back. Just had to look something up in my notes. Lillian Mary Astill was the daughter of William Astill and Elizabeth Porter. I think I have that correct. Raymond and Lillian lost two dear little boys in the 1930's in a dam at Orange. If you go to my media you will find a photo of them.

 

Oops , sorry Debbie not Christine, close I guess.