Handwriting help please

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  1. Daft Bat

    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    I am sorry that there is not much to go on.... :oops:

    The snip below is from the back of a silhouette that was done in the early 1800s.

    The name is Ann LUCUS - that, I can read. But what does the faded writing say, please? I appreciate that the words are not all complete but all suggestions welcome.

    Thanks. :)

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  2. Ma-dotcom

    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Dtr of Anne Esther Bowly? reads more as Eslter Bowly.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Second thoughts maybe dtr of Sam'....and Esther Bowley.
     
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    Does this help.

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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    A bit of research but could be well off the target.....
    Ann Bowly 1769-1853 daughter of Samuel married William Lucas. She died 27/2/1853 Hitchin Hertfordshire.
    So....the feint writing MIGHT say...daughter of ......Bowly
    And that could be Samuel...Bowly
    Just had another check...Samuel Bowly’s second wife was Hester Young
    Sorry that’s only wife not second
     
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    Think this may have solved your query, Jan. Quaker marriage at the monthly meeting of Nailsworth, Cirencester on "fifteenth day of eleventh month 1798 between William LUCAS the younger of Hitchin in the county of Hertford, Brewer, son of William LUCAS of the same place and Sarah his wife deceased and Ann BOWLY daughter of Samuel BOWLY of Cirencester in the county of Gloucester and Hester his wife". Both signed.

    Janet

    Snap Sue!
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    Wow! Thank you all! :D

    You are stars, the lot of you! {-(^^)-}
     
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    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    Ann Bowly, father Samuel mother Hester Young born Nailsworth 8 Sept 1769.
    Samuel Bowly born 1733 Cirencester. Hester Young born Milverton 1746.
    Ancestry tree. Hope this is the lady you are after, otherwise it's back to the drawing board.
    Snap Janet:D
     
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    AnnB Editor in Chief who is Hot off the Press!

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    Do you have any newspaper articles about Samuel Lucas? I'm sure you know all about him, but I like this review of his diary -

    The Scotsman 5th February 1934 under the heading ‘Books of the Day’
    A QUAKER WORTHY A Quaker Journal (1804-1861) Being the Diary and Reminiscences of William Lucas of Hitchen, a Member of the Society of Friends. Edited by G . E . Bryant and G . P . Baker. Vol 1 1804-1842 18s net. London: Hutchinson.
    One must not look into this journal of a Quaker Drawer of the early Victorian age in the expectation of discovering a Pepys, or even a Greville. Mr William Lucas, brewer and Quaker, of Hitchin in the County of Herts, had not the talents nor the opportunities of either of these noted diarists. He was a business man, with middle-class interests and outlook; a good Quaker, as beseems one whose mother was one of the "preachers" of the cause, but not intolerant of other views within or without the circle of the Friends; concerned also with what was passing in public life; having an eye to changes in industry and science, art and literature in the early and middle decades of last century; and, as Mr J. B. Beevor writes of him in the introduction one who "listens for the songs of birds and observes their movements with an affectionate accuracy." William Lucas may always be trusted to look for the safe and reasonable "middle way" in life and action, although he does not always hit upon it; and his commentaries (which include notes on travel at home and on the Continent and on books, art exhibitions and new inventions, as well as political and religious movements) give us a picture of himself as well as of his times. He is interested in many things, clear-sighted on most, and fanatical on none. We have accounts of rambles in the "Lake Country," when Wordsworth and others of the Lake Poets could be met and talked to, on the roads and hillsides; of excursions, to the Trossachs, to the Hebrides, and to Edinburgh and Abbotsford when the glamour of the "Wizard" was still fresh and living; and impressions of Dickens on the first appearance of "Pickwick," and of Charles Darwin, when the "Voyage of the Beagle" came fresh from the press. The diarist's taste in art was quickened by the fact that he was a brother of Samuel Lucas, many of whose drawings of scenery adorn the pages of this book. He was a sharp critic of the politicians of the day, of course from the side of the Reformers, but as a rule he is broadminded and ready to make allowances. On the young Queen and her surroundings he looked on the whole with a benignant eye, while not overrating her judgment or capacity. It is a sober-minded chronicle of the events and figures of forty critical years; and, like Oliver Twist (of whose adventures, by the way, when they first appeared in print, Mr Lucas thought but poorly) we look for more .

    An interesting man :)
     
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    Why did I put Samuel Lucas when I meant William :confused: In fact, the whole family look very interesting, so I'm sure you know all about them :)
     
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