Help deciphering an address Please

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  1. Chimp

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    I would like some help Deciphering this address please. This person was buried in 1880 in St. Mary's Islington. Not sure if the address is anywhere near there.
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    Looks like 222 Copenhagen Street, Islington to me, Chimp. :)
     
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    Thank you very much Jan {-(^^)-} , now I have the address where they lived :)
     
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    You're welcome. :)

    I had a quick look at google maps. Copenhagen Street is still there, but full of more modern houses, I'm afraid. Probably took a fair few hits from the bombs in WW2.
     
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    Yeah I did try looking for it but realised that the houses looked a bit to modern. Thank you for taking the time to look for me :)
     
  6. Huncamunca

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    The street directory part of the 1882 London P.O. Directory shows that Copenhagen Street, Islington, ran from Cloudesley Road to York Road, with even numbers on the North side. Nos 168-182 are between the junctions with Bemerton Street and William Street North. Beyond William Street North (going westwards) it shows nos 184, 186 and 190. Even numbers higher than that are presumably further along, but not listed in the directory.

    Put coordinates 530564 and 183702 into the Old Maps website and switch to the 1876-77 1:2500 map to see this bit of Copenhagen Street: by counting along I would guess no.222 must be somewhere near the junction with Delhi Street.
     
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  7. Mutters

    Mutters I am not bossy, I just have better ideas.

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    According to google maps, it is only about 1 mile from Copenhagen Street to St. Mary's church in Islington.
     
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    Huncamunca - Thank you very much, I will take a look when I get home this evening.

    Mutters - I think I may have made a mistake on the actual burial place. Here is what it actually says
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    So I'm not sure where he was actually buried.
     
  9. Flook

    Flook A True Gentleman. Rest in Peace.

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    My folks are buried there Chimp. I'll see what I can find for you.
     
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    Thank you very much Flook.
     
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    Flook A True Gentleman. Rest in Peace.

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    I see Copenhagen Street was bombed in the Blitz. There are some photos on this site - the very bottom one shows some houses still standing and what looks like air-raid shelters built in the street>

    http://www.
    stilltimecollection.co.uk/search/q/0-0-0-0-0-0-1-1-copenhagen.html
     
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    mugwortismy cat Tenacious to the End!

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    St Mary's Islington is a rather nice church with a beautiful spire; I can't actually find a picture that seems to do it justice, but this one isn't bad.

    www.
    flickr.com/photos/albedo/417914048/

    I expect there must have been burials there in the past, but with the expansion of Islington from small village to suburb (cum slum) that small space they had must have been filled long ago. They have managed to retain a small green space around them, which is a pleasant garden to sit in but I think any headstones must be long gone (sorry I can't remember but I haven't been there for some time). The church's own website has a wonderful aerial view which shows just how small the space around it is, on this page:

    www.
    stmaryislington.org/2012/11/islington-facts.html

    (Note from Admin: url edited as they ask for donations)

    someone has written a nice blog with pictures about one of their ancestors who was sexton (well before the time you are interested in, but the pictures are nice)

    http://sharnsgenealogyhints.blogspot.co.uk/2011_07_01_archive.html
     
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    "The burial ground at Finchley for the parish of St Mary Islington" is presumably what is now called Islington Cemetery, 278 High Road, East Finchley London N2 9AG. It was the first municipally owned cemetery in London.
     
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    From post #8, the header in the burial register reads 'Burials in the Burial Ground at FINCHLEY, for the Parish of St. Mary, Islington . . . in the Year 1880'

    In 1854 (according to Wikipedia) the St Pancras Burial Board bought 88 acres of land on Finchley Common, for use as a burial ground. The cemetery was extended in 1877. Many thousands of people from the boroughs of Islington and St Pancras/Camden are buried there:

    http://
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Pancras_and_Islington_Cemetery

    Edit: sorry, PeterG, I didn't see your post.
     
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    Now that the CWGC website has a much better search engine, it is possible to search for keywords such as address. Looking for civilian casualties with the keyword 'Copenhagen' finds several from Copenhagen Street, killed in two separate attacks:

    22 September 1940
    Frederick Thomas Morris died at 121 Copenhagen Street
    Charles Allen and his wife Ellen died at 123 Copenhagen Street. Also at that address, James Black, his wife Elizabeth and baby son James died.

    17 July 1944
    Terence Stephen Tully aged 6 died at 209 Copenhagen Street, as did 38 year old Ivy Nellie Brown otherwise Tully (wife of Alfred Brown).
    George Edward Turner (33) died at 211 Copenhagen Street
     
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