Help need Glamorganshire marriage

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  1. Freda Price

    Freda Price New Member

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    Hi all this is my first post, hope I have got the right board. Here is something to get your teeth into on this cold wintery day. I have been researching for the past 20 years, but took a break due to ill health, and family commitments.

    I have recently re joined Ancestry, and Find my Past, and have started to research my grandchildren's Welsh ancestors. I have gone back quite a way with the help of hints and other peoples trees on Ancestry, but I do like to confirm that these are correct before I add them to my tree. I have got back to Francis Thomas born 1530 in Glamorganshire. Married abt 1552 in Glamorganshire to a Mrs Francis Thomas. ( I think I found this on Family Search). There are nine public trees on Ancestry that all have him married to Gwenllian or Gwenthlean Herle. Do I just hope that one of these nine have confirmed this , and take it to be correct, as none of them show a source of confirmation. Do any of you know the way of me confirming that Mrs Francis Thomas is in fact Gwenllian/Gwenthlean Herle, as from her the line then goes into Gentry, and real documented history. I find myself so excited about this, I would hate to get it wrong.
    Thanks for any help.
    Freda
     
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    Daft Bat Administrator. Chief cook & bottle washer! Staff Member

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    Hi Freda,

    I would be rather wary of these entries if there are no sources quoted. Some people just seem to collect names without substantiating them so it is always wise to be careful! :)

    Hmmm - Glamorganshire is a large place and none of them actually say which parish. Therefore, the first place that I would check is the Glamorgan Family History Society. If anyone knows, they should!

    https://www.glamfhs.org.uk

    Good luck! :)
     
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  3. Bay Horse

    Bay Horse Can be a bit of a dark horse

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    Again, there is a pedigree resource file on familysearch for a Gwenllian (spelt Gwenthlean) Herl marrying a Francis Thomas, which if it is to be believed has Francis dying at 102.

    As Jan says, tread carefully.
     
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    Yes I saw that and was suspicious, especially living so long in the 1500's
     
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    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    Does the name Gwenllian/Gwenthlean appear in the later generations?
     
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    Good question Molly May, I didn't think of that. I will get on to it right away. thanks
     
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  7. Freda Price

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    I am exhausted, this has been dancing round in my mind all night. I can confirm that the name Gwenellian does appear again in the family child of a Catherine Thomas and Morgan David but not until 6 generations later 1695 ish.
    don't know if this is a coincidence or not the mothers name being Thomas same as the Francis Thomas I am querying.
     
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    I have a number of Gwenllians in the Glamorganshire branch of my family too. It's an old name; there was a Gwenllian at my school too, so reasonably popular in Welsh-speaking areas. Therefore it could be pure coincidence.
     

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