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  1. Flook

    Flook A True Gentleman

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    I've known about this entry for years but having just looked at it again I'd like confirmation that my guess as to the residential address is correct.

    Marriage of John James Lewis and Louisa Jenkins at St Mary, Spital Square, 4 June 1865 (in Ancestry London Marriages).

    Any ideas welcome.
     
  2. Archie's Mum

    Archie's Mum Always digging up clues

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    I hope this is what you are after.
    From The Museum of London:
    The St Mary Spital Square site is on the northern side of Folgate St in NE London. It was home to the Augustinian prior and hospital of St Mary Spital.
    Oops, I think you are after their address. Sorry. Must read and absorb :oops:
     
  3. Flook

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    That's O.K. Sue - yes it is just the 'home' address they give that I'd like people to have a stab at please.
     
  4. MollyMay

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    For those who cannot see it
    upload_2017-11-7_22-5-51.png

    Still working on it Flook - ?market (so far)

    I did notice the minister has not signed the entry though.
     
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    the certificate says St Mary Spital in Middlesex
    at top of image it says Tower Hamlet St Mary Spital Square
    so probably Sue you are right with Folgate St

    sorry crossed mail
    looks like clowmarket never heard of that though:eek:
     
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  6. Flook

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    Well I never. I'd never noticed that before!
     
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    Claremarket? my A-Z of Victorian London says it is close to King's College Hospital
     
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    Ah good, that's where I'd got to. I'm wondering if the church did 'cut-price' weddings (not unknown around this time) which is why they wed, relatively, so far from home.

    Thanks very much for your thoughts.
     
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    AnnB Editor in Chief who is Hot off the Press!

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    There's a wonderful photo of Clare Market circa 1900 at
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    http://spitalfieldslife.com/2012/09/28/the-markets-of-old-london/
     
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    That's a splendid photo Ann. Thank you.
     
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    Perhaps because they were both 'under age'
     
  12. Flook

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    Yes I wondered that, but John James's father James Lewis was one of the witnesses and so there would be no problem with permission. Their local church was St Clement Danes but unfortunately the marriage registers for that period aren't available to check whether there were under 21 marriages. It's certainly possible that St CD's rector was a bit sniffy about these things.
     
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    Oh, I've just remembered. The Jenkins' were Irish and I'm pretty certain they were Catholics and so that might have been the problem.
     
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    How wrong can you be! I'd forgotten the marriages for St Clement Danes were on FMP and there we are - on 4th September 1865 there is a marriage where the groom is 18 and the bride 17.

    So I'll stick with either the cost or my post 13.....
     
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    I've been having a rootle through the papers and it would appear that Clare Market was a hot-bed for the Fenians. I can't, however, find any mention of the Lewis's.
     
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    Is that a wedding dress being held out the window?
     
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  17. Flook

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    Hahahaha - exactly what I thought! :)
     
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