Help with witnesses to a marriage

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  1. Jellylegs

    Jellylegs Well-Known Member

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    This is a snip of a marriage certificate I received today. Can anyone read what is on the last line - presuming it is a name or names of witnesses.
     
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    the mark of M???? Sullivan
    S???? ??????? W?????? R???????

    As the Priest is Catholic, could it be Latin (Sanctum something?) ?

    Sorry, that's got me stumped.
    Jane
     
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    I think it could be Margaret Sullivan
     
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    The mark of Margaret Sullivan.
    The last word looks like Re??sha.
     
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    AnnB Editor in Chief who is Hot off the Press!

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    I think the first word is Samuel and the last word is Rensham - what comes in the middle changes every time I look at it o_O I keep wanting to make it say George Elliott after Samuel, but :nailbiting:

    Whereabouts are these (possible) people being witnesses?
     
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    I'm a bit like Ann in that my version changes every time I look at it! Margaret SULLIVAN is the easy bit and then ........ George Head Clerk unto Registrar?? Then I look at it again and it could be RENSHAM. Not too much help, I'm afraid.

    Janet
     
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    I agree with Ann, Samuel George Elliott and possibly William (?) Rensham
     
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    The marriage took place at Sheppey in Kent. It was between Margaret Sullivan and Charles Fletcher.

    I have Margaret (the one who married) with her married sister Catherine Lucas at 1 Bull Lane, Minster Sheppey in 1861 - RG09/531/154/33 and was wondering if they may have been related to Honora Sullivan/Lynch/Murphy as older sister Catherine was a witness at Honora's marriage to Dennis Murphy and also a Godmother to one of her children.
     
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    A Samuel G Elliott pops up in the 1871, 1881& 1891 census in Hope St (for all 3 census), Minister in Sheppey, a pawnbroker and furniture dealer.
     
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    It says Samuel George Elliott Deputy Registrar :) - I've just found him being named as the Deputy Registrar at a marriage in the Registry Office at Sheerness in 1868.
     
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    burt Where there's a will there's a way!

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    It does, Ann, clever girl!:)
     
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    8(:-)
     
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    Looking at it again, it certainly looks like Samuel George Elliot and the last one could be Robert?

    Oh, I see you have sussed it out - Deputy Registrar :rolleyes:
     
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    As it was an RC marriage, and Catholic priests weren't usually sworn in as Registrars, it was one of the ones classified as "register office or Registrar attended" on some of those county BMD lists. Anglican vicars could make legal marriages, but Catholic priests usually had to have a registrar in attendance, who also signed the certificate.
     
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