Hi From Canada researching Jones surname

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  1. jetta

    jetta New Member

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    Hi Everyone:

    I am researching the Jones family and I don't have a lot of concrete information. I believe they are from Worcestershire, Claines, Stoke Prior, Finstall, Kidderminster, etc. areas.

    My Great Grandfather, Thomas, was somehow related to Joseph Jones from Park Hall, Upton Warren, Worcs. area, his wife was Elizabeth Crane from Wribbenhall, Worcs.

    My GGrandfather, Thomas, immigrated to Canada in 1889 but the passenger list and preceding census' only indicates he was from England.

    Two of Joseph & Elizabeth's sons immigrated to the same town (Virden, Manitoba) and my GGrandfather, Thomas were in business with them (Samuel Ernest & John). Their son John lived with my GGrandfather and family, but died a few months after immigrating to Canada.

    I believe my GGrandfather to have been born in June 1846 in Claines, Worcs., parents were Thomas Jones Sr. (born in Stoke Prior-1817) and Eliza Dance. Thomas was a widower (which we didn't know about) when he arrived in Canada in March 1889.

    I cannot determine if the Thomas Jones born in Claines, in 1846 ever immigrated or died in England. I cannot determine the family connection between Joseph Jones (Elizabeth Crane) born about 1805 in Stoke Prior, lived on Newton Farm, his father was also Joseph Jones and my GGrandfather Thomas.

    I have searched for YEARS and can't make any headway, so in desperation, I thought I would ask on this forum. Hope this wasn't too confusing.

    Thank you
     
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    GrannyBarb Custodian of the Family Accounts

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    Welcome, Jetta. I'm in the States and not much help. However, do take heart that we recently had a Smith query that did quite well. Hang in there. Help is on the way... glad you're here.
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    Welcome in Jetta, unable to add info on this thread as it's for howdy do's only. Family search has quite a bit which then relates to censuses. If you don't have a new thread maybe in Worcestershire later I'll pop one in there.
     
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    Hi Jetta - welcome to the forum. :)

    As Wendy said, the Introduce Yourself section is for just that so I have moved this thread over to the Worcestershire section.

    Fret not - you'll soon find your way round! :)
     
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    Thank you, I hadn't realized there is a 'Worcestershire' section yet!
     
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    Welcome jetta. Happy to have you with us C|:-)
     
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    Thank you, very much!
     
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    Ma-dotcom A Bonza Little Digger!

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    You probably have most of this Jetta, some ie Joseph- may not be yours but still plenty on Family search.
    Name Thomas Jones
    Event Type Census 1871
    Claines, Worcestershire, England
    Enumeration District 14
    Gender Male.Age 24
    Occupation Smith's Striker
    Relationship to Head of Household Son
    Birth Year (Estimated) 1847
    Birthplace Claines, Worcestershire
    Entry Number 21
    Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/3067/0266
    1871
    Thomas Jones Head M 52 Finstall Stake Prior b.1819
    Eliza Jones Wife F 49 Claines, Worcestershire
    Thomas Jones Son M 24 Claines, Worcestershire
    Harriatt Jones Daughter F 17 Claines, Worcestershire
    James Jones Son M 14 Claines, Worcestershire
    Mary A Jones Daughter F 12 Claines, Worcestershire
    Margret Jones Daughter F 10 Claines, Worcestershire
    Alfred Jones Son M 8 Claines, Worcestershire
    William Jones Son M 4 Claines, Worcestershire
    Citing this Record
    "England and Wales Census, 1871", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5YW-L7H : accessed 10 October 2015), Thomas Jones in entry for Thomas Jones, 1871.

    1841
    Thomas Jones
    Age: 25: abt 1816
    Where born: Worcestershire, England
    Civil Parish: Claines
    HO107; Piece: 1209; Book: 5B; Civil Parish: Claines; County: Worcestershire; Enumeration District: 1; Folio: 6; Page: 4;
    no other info here.
    ..................

    England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
    Joseph Jones
    christening:14 June 1789
    CLAINES, WORCESTER, ENGLAND
    father:Josh. Jones [Joshua?]
    mother:Mary
    ..............
    Joseph Jones
    christening:7 March 1790
    Old Swinford, Worcester, England
    res.:Old Swinford, Worcester, England
    father:Joseph Jones
    mother:Elizabeth
    ..............
    Joseph was a popular name, I had to leave to package up Doggies casserole.
    just watch someone better informed will have more most likely.

    Taa Jan.
     
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    MollyMay Knows where to find the answers!

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    Thomas 1818
    Eliza 1822

    Childrens Baptisms

    Sarah 27th February 1842
    Richard 3rd September 1843
    Charlotte 2nd March 1845
    Thomas 4th October 1846
    Emma 9th April 1848
    Eliza 3rd March 1850
    William 8th June 1851
    Harriet 15th January 1854
    James 5th February 1857
    Mary Ann 5th September 1858
    Margaret 4th March 1860
    Alfred Charles 4th January 1863
    William Albert 15th December 1866

    Thomas seems to be pretty constant with his year +/- 1 and place of birth. The only Thomas I can find around the right time was the son of Richard & Ann.

    Thomas Jones, baptised 22 Jun 1817, Stoke Prior, Severn-Stoke, Worcestershire

    I have searched for a Joseph, son of Richard & Ann hoping that they may be brothers but have drawn a blank.
     
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    England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
    Samuel Ernest Jones
    christened:9 August 1863
    STOKE PRIOR, WORCESTER, ENGLAND
    Pts:Joseph Jones:+ Elizabeth
    ......................
    British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986; 1992-1993
    Samuel Ernest Jones
    b:30 June 1863 England
    death:31 May 1948
    Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
    Pts:Joseph Jones+:Elizabeth Crane
    spouse:Jennie Huckerby
    ..............
    England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
    John Walter Jones
    christened:21 August 1867
    STOKE PRIOR, WORCESTER, ENGLAND
    Pts:Joseph Jones:+Elizabeth
    ......................
    England and Wales Census 1881
    John Walter Jones
    birth:1869
    Stoke Prior, Worcestershire, England
    residence:1881
    Upton-Warren, Worcestershire, England
    Pts:Joseph Jones+:Elizabeth Jones
    other:
    Joseph Crane Jones, Elizabeth Edith Jones, Benjamin Henry Jones, Mary Isabel Jones, George Jones, Charles Jones...
     
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    This all seems to blend with the above.:-
    Elizabeth Crane
    Married: Joseph Jones, 17 Jan 1861
    Pensax,Worcester,England
    FHL Film Number: 369287
    ...................

    1881 Joseph Jones,83 c.1798-Bewdly worcs, & Elizabeth Jones, wife- res. 53 Wyre Hill
    Joseph Jones: 1st Mar. 1882 The Will of Joseph Jones late of Park Hall near Bromsgrove in the County of Worcester, Gentle man who died 7th July 1881 at Park Hall was proved at Worcester by Elizabeth Jones of Park Hall, widow and Relict,- George Crane of Wribbenhall near Bewdley in the County of Worcester,a corn merchant & Joseph Russon of Bromsgrove, Estate agent -the executors.
    ......................
    1877:Benjamin Crane.
    29 May. The Will with a codicil of Benjamin Crane late of Wribbenhall in the Parish or Foreigh of Kidderminster in the County of worcester, Gentleman, who died 12 Dec. 1876 at Wribbenhal was proved at Worcester by George Crane of Wribbenhall Gentleman, the son, & Joseph Jones Gentleman & Elizabeth Jones (wife of Joseph), the dtr,- both of Newton in Parish of Stoke Prior in the county of the executors.
    ................

    1871
    George Crane,40,: c.1831 unmarried.
    Head.- maltster
    born: Bewdley, Worcestershire, England
    Town: Wribbenhall
    RG10; Piece: 3036; Folio: 95; Page: 8
    ....................................
    1881
    Park Hall, Upton warren.
    Joseph Jones 71
    Elizabeth Jones 45
    Joseph Crane Jones 18
    Elizabeth Edith Jones 16
    Benjamin Henry Jones 14
    John Walter Jones 12
    Mary Isabel Jones 11
    George Jones 8
    Charles Jones 8
    Rose Jane Taylor 26 serv.
    : RG11; Piece: 2937; Folio: 108; Page: 10;
    ............
    A Joseph Jones was Baptised 21 June 1791 Stoke Prior, Hereford?
    Mother: Sarah Jones
    FHL Film Number: 1041615

    There are other Baptisms closer to his census alleged birth date.
     
  19. Half Hour

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    Welcome Jetta! You don't say here you are in Canada. Can you please be a little more specific so if you need Canadian help we may be able to advise.
    Happy Thanksgiving!
     
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    Thank you, everyone for the warm welcome. Thank you, very much, for taking time to do all of the research and it was done so quickly.

    I do have all of the above information and more, but I cannot tie that 'Thomas Jones' from Claines, with my GGrandfather. I can't identify if that Thomas from Claines, died in England. In the English 1881 census Thomas might have been a visitor in Bromsgrove, as I can't find him anywhere else.

    I just don't know where to look further. The Immigration passenger list information from England to Canada only begins in 1890 and Thomas came to Canada in 1889!!!

    There isn't anyone left in my family with any information...I'm thinking they didn't know anything, as no one ever mentioned that Thomas was a 42 year old widower upon arriving in Canada.

    I do have information from the Canadian census', but all just indicate he was born in England. Then the family went missing from the Canadian 1911 Census and he is also missing from the 1921 Canadian Census.

    I have spent years eliminating thousands of Jones', but he is tied to Joseph Jones (born Stoke Prior) of Park Hall, Upton Warren, but I can't find a tie. Joseph Jones Jr.'s father was Joseph Jones Sr, from Stoke Prior, living on Newton Farm, Stoke Prior. Thomas Jr.'s (from Claines), father, Thomas Sr., was also born in Stoke Prior, in 1817...but I can't link the two senior Jones'.

    A 'James Jones' and 'Alice Parton Jones' are also somehow connected, moved to Virden, Manitoba, but Alice comes from Wolverhampton, but her father Samuel Parton comes from Stottesdon, Shropshire, near to Wribbenhall/Bewdley where Elizabeth Crane Jones is from...and there are many Jones' there also.

    I have more info, but I know this is getting confusing and too lengthy, I just thought I might get lucky and find someone researching 'Jones' in the area.

    Thank you, so much, for your time. Someone asked where I live in Canada...Vancouver Island, British Columbia.
     
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