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  1. Mcmahon

    Mcmahon New Member

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    My father was ophaned at age 3 or 4yrs and brought up in an ophanage in nagpur india.i have found his place of birth and age. Ihave found his parents names but can not find anything else about them. My farthers name was vernon wilfred mcmahon. His parents names joseph and winifred adelaide mcmahon. Vernon wilfred mcmahon born 28 mar. 1894 in bhusawal india. He had a brotther reginald joseph and a sister helena winifred. Can yuo help.
     
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    The Artful Dodger R.I.P.

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    You probably have these baptisms
    Helena Winifred - 18 December 1890 - born 28 November 1890
    Vernon Wilfred - baptised as Wilfred Vernon - 23 May 1894
     
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    Winifred Adelaide MacMahon
    Deaths 31st July1896
    Place Bhusawal
    Register Entry Jul 31 at Bhusawal, Winifred Adelaide the wife of Joseph MacMahon Loco Department GIP Railway and daughter of the late JC Menzies Public Works Department Berar aged 37 years

    So from this we know her fathers name.
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    Loco Department GIP Railway =

    Locomotive Department Great Indian Peninsular Railway
     
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    The Artful Dodger R.I.P.

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    and a death and burial for Helena Winifred - died 23 December 1890 and buried 24 December 1890 - Source - India, Select Deaths and Burials 1719-1948 [ available on Ancestry]
     
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    Chimp Moderator & Cheeky Human IMP Staff Member

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    It appears that your fathers mother Winifred died when he was just 2 years old.

    They seemed to be living in Bhusawal at the time of Winifred's death.

    You say your father was orphaned when he was 3 or 4. Hmmmmm I can't find a death for a Joseph MacMahon/McMahon around this time.

    I have, however, found a marriage for a Joseph Mcmahon in 1897

    Groom: Joseph Mcmahon
    Bride: Kate Alice Eason
    Marriage: 30 Jun 1897 Bhusawal, Bombay, India
    G/Father: William Mcmahon
    B/Father: Edward Easom
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00210-3, GS Film number: 523878

    Could the father, Joseph, have put the child in an orphanage and marry again?
     
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    The Artful Dodger R.I.P.

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    There is a death and burial for a Joseph Mcmahon - died 15 March 1897 and buried 16 March 1897 in Quetta, Bangal, India - same source as post #5. This chap was aged 24 so maybe Chimpy has found pay-dirt.
     
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    Huncamunca The Knowledgeable One

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    The full register entry can be seen on Findmypast, in their British India Office Marriages collection. It shows that this Joseph was a 32 year old widower, and a driver for the G.I.P.R. His father, William, is shown as deceased.

    It seems very likely that this is the same Joseph whose wife Winifred had died the previous year, as the baptism entries for Wilfred Vernon, Helena Winifred and Reginald (which are also on Findmypast) give their father's occupation as Driver G.I.P.R., Engine Driver G.I.P.R. and Driver G.I.P.Ry., respectively.
     
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    Huncamunca The Knowledgeable One

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    Findmypast have a burial for a MacMahon child who may well be a sibling of Wilfred Vernon, Helena and Reginald:

    Winifred MacMahon, daughter of - MacMahon Engine Driver G.I.P.R., died on 28 April 1889, aged just 1 day, and was buried on 29 April 1889 at Bhusawal. The cause of death is not recorded.

    From the same source, Winnifred Adelaide McMahon, 'wife of Guard G.I.P.R.', died 31 July 1896 and was buried the same day at Bhusawal. She is shown in the burial register as 28 years old. Cause of death: measles.

    The date of death matches that given in post #3, but the age at death is quite different.
     
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    Huncamunca The Knowledgeable One

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    So far no sign of a Winifred Adelaide Menzies, but there is a tree here which gives her a quite different surname, Reberio. Perhaps that's a typo, for her father's name is given as Joseph Cox Rebeiro:

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    wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=lauza002&id=I6750

    The tree has further information about both the McMahon and Rebeiro families. Some key facts are missing (e.g. the date and place of the marriage to Joseph McMahon) so it needs further investigation.

    There is a baptism at John Pereira's Trinity Chapel, Madras on 23 January 1870 for a Winifred Adelaide REBEIRO, born 29 July 1869. Parents Joseph Cox and Henrietta Agnes REBEIRO of Khamgaon. Father's occupation Overseer, D(??) P Works (Department of Public Works?). He certainly does sound rather like the J.C.Menzies, late of the Public Works Dept, mentioned in Winifred McMahon's death announcement - apart from having the wrong surname!

    What we need is some evidence that this Winifred is really the one who married Joseph McMahon . . .
     
  11. Sabrina

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    Hi,
    I have just come across this post and had to sign up to enable me to contact "McMahon".
    I have in the last couple of days discovered that I have a Joseph Cox Rebeiro, born abt 1835 in Madras. His parents are Joseph and Georgiana Frederica Rebeiro (nee Cox), his second marriage.
    Please contact me: sabrina dot armstrong at bigpond dot com
    (Email address edited so as to avoid spammers ;) )

    Looking forward to your reply.
    Kind Regards
    Sabrina Armstrong (nee Tarley)
    Western Australia
     
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    Is there any other way I can contact "McMahon"as every time I log in McMahon is never Online. Can the Moderators/Admin send McMahon an email to log in and look at this post. I would dearly love to get in contact as we are related. Thank you.
     
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    If you click on McMahon's user name, a drop-down box will appear. One of the options is to send a private message. If you send a message that way it will in turn generate an email to him. :)
     
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    Thank you, I will give it a go. Cheers Sabrina.
     
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    Would the name Vernon Wilfred Joseph McMahon and his wife Margaret Delphine McMahon of Indore/Mhow be familiar to you? Their son was Wilfred Joseph McMahon. If so, please contact me
     

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