James Bennetts all spellings and Grace T Bear

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    I have no idea where to place this family because they left Cornwall and were in Scotland,Wales and Devon.
    Today I found another daughter Sophia Ann born 1863 Penzance district so was probably living with her parents at ludgvan.
    Another daughter is called Elizabeth James and she was born 1857 Penzance district and again probably lived at Ludgvan. The middle name James came as a surprise.
    There is Mary Ann 1865 born Ludgvan.Last seen 1891 Lower Bronshill Road, Tormoham, Newton Abbot,Devon with mother and sibllings plus stepfather,
    Grace B born 1869 at Ludgvan married John Andrew Mogg and she died 1953 at Totnes in Devon.
    The next 3 were born in Scotland -Margaret Jemima born January 1871 and last seen in 1881 Pen Y Bryn, Halkin, Holywell, Flintshire, Wales with parents and siblings . I have put her on a different board.
    William Michael Bennetts born August 1873 and possibly died 1910 in Devon.Last seen 1901 2, Warbro Terrace, Torquay, St Mary Church, Newton Abbot, Devon with sister and step-father.
    Barbara born 1878 and died 1930 in Devon.
    Last is Emma born 1879 at Flintshire in Wales last seen in 1901 at 2, Warbro Terrace, Torquay, St Mary Church, Newton Abbot, Devon with brother William and step-father.
    FMP has the 1871 census and has the family in Scotland LeadMines,Carsphairn,Kirkcudbrightshire.
    I can't see the original but one child is transcribed as Ercilla LBennet born 1862,England.Is she Sophia?
    Elizabeth James Bennetts (1857) isn't with them on this census so I shall have to see if I can find her.
    1881 the family is RG11/5506/folio100/page 6. No Sophia this time.
    If possible put links from the Devon board please.
     
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    The index to the 1871 census on Scotland's People has
    E Bennet age 9
    Sophia A age 8
    Mary A age 6
    Mael B age 2
    Margaret age 0
     
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    I think that I have found Sophia Ann the right age in the 1891 census in Ulverston,Lancashire. RG12/3476/80/21
    She is a hotel launderess and place of birth is Penzance.
     
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    Fmp had Ercilla LBennet maybe at a push it could have been Elizabeth J?
     
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    Ercilla is another daughter aged 9. Sophia is on there aged 8.
     
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    I can't find a birth for Ercilla and what happened to Elizabeth James Bennetts born 1857 all spellings?
    Cornwall opc has Elizabeth Jane Bennatts baptised 17 December 1857 at Ludgvan. Daughter of James and mother Grace Beer. Back to Jane not James.
     
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    Ercilla is probably a mis-spelling of Ursula.
     
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    Just about to say that. I noticed her in Halkyn churchyard before - died age 16 (1877).
     
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    Bay Horse .Thank-you but can't say like. Poor girl.
     
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    There is a birth March qtr 1859 mother Beer in the Penzance District.
    Cornwall opc has burial Ursula Truern Bennetts 22 Feb 1861 at Crowlas and same child's middle name Trewren in the Penzance record transcriptions.
    Her mother's middle name was Trewren all spellings.
    I see the death Ursula Truern Bennets born 1861 died 1877 but at the moment no birth.
     
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    Ursula Bennetts
    Birth quarter - 1
    Birth year - 1859
    Mother's maiden name - Beer
    District - Penzance
    Volume - 5C
    Page - 336
     
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    She is the burial in post 10.
    No idea where the 2nd Ursula was born in 1861.
     
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    Who is this ?

    Ursula Truern Bennetts
    Event Type: Burial
    Event Date: 22 Feb 1861
    Event Place: Ludgvan, Cornwall, England
    Age: 2
    Birth Year (Estimated): 1859
     
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    I think that she is the birth March qtr 1859 mother Beer in the Penzance District.
     
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    Going back to 1871 in Scotland, James and Grace have 5 children with them
    Ercilla L (Ursula?) age 9
    Sophia A age 8
    Mary A age 6
    Grace b age 2 born Islay, Argyllshire, Scotland
    Margaret j age 0 Islay, Argyllshire, Scotland
    1881 in Wales a few more children but no Mary A and no Sophia.
    1891 Grace has married again so I have to find James.
     
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    I have already found Sophia in 1891 post 3:oops::rolleyes: Ulverston, Lancashire, England.
    So will see what else turns up for her in that area.
     
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    Whether it is the right person I don't know.
    1901 has a Mary Ann Bennetts born 1865 at Crowlas and the right age at Kensington RG13/22/101/29.
    She is a servant in the household of Gertrude L Browne.
    Mary Ann is also with her in 1911.
     
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    FMP has the marriage announcement of James Bennetts to Miss Grace Treren Bear both of Ludgvan. 11th October 1857.
    Mary Jane their daughter born same year.
    Added: At Ludgvan December 1857 the wife of James Bennetts a daughter .
    If she is correct and is Elizabeth Jane born 1857,her baptism was the 17 December 1857 at Ludgvan.Elizabeth also appears in the 1861 census with her parents at Ludgvan.
    I wonder if she died.
     
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